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Re: Flipping the model presents a new way to treat sleep apnoea

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Post by selimthegrim »

fnordpiglet wrote: post #37
DrAwdeOccarim wrote: post #7

Totally agree. My journey started with TMJ disorder. Turns out bruxism (teeth grinding) is common in sleep apnea patients; I assume because it forces the lower jaw forward. I started with a mandibular advancement device and it was amazing. It completely relived my debilitating TMJ jaw pain and fixed my sleep apnea. I couldn’t believe how amazing I fet every morning. Unfortunately, and which was clearly communicated t…

I want to emphasize the importance of seeming an ENT. I also saw an ENT, but very early in my journey. I also had sinus surgery. After recovery was the first time in my life I could breathe fully through my nose. I had no idea - it was like being blind and being able to see for the first time, except I had no inkling others could see. That actually opened up a realization that the sinus issues they fixed had led to c…

Now I’m curious what the lost English word is.

Re: Flipping the model presents a new way to treat sleep apnoea

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Post by j-kent »

euroderf wrote: post #92

I tried a CPAP and could not sleep with it. So the therapist went for plan B, which was a dental appliance. Just enough to make my lower jaw jut out a bit. Problem solved.

1000 times, yes. I also couldn’t sleep with CPAP. I tried about 3 different mouth pieces (and tongue extensions that looked like pacifiers) until settling on one that also had a strip that held my tongue down - which was a total game changer.

Re: Flipping the model presents a new way to treat sleep apnoea

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Post by pkaye »

mfgs wrote: post #78
reilly3000 wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me, I have an unrelated sleep disorder that makes sleep extremely important, and sensory issues that made sleeping with CPAP difficult to impossible. I tried lots of kinds of masks at my expense, but got no material support from the providers involved. After many months of trying I found that I have far better sleep without it, and got sick less frequently as well. I cleaned it fastidious and fiddled with it regu…

How are you measuring O2 levels? I’ve also been experimenting with a slightly elevated mattress recently, it seems to help quite a lot for my OSA.

I've gotten a full bed foam wedge in the past. I can't find the original one I bought before but I think the below is similar. Its much better than a short wedge pillow if you are a side sleeper. The only problem is initially you will slide down slowly but it gets better over time. I used it for a different reason because I used to get GERD issues in the past and elevation would help a lot.

https://www.amazon.com/stores/page/20D27239-CBE7-4150-BEA7-A...

Re: Flipping the model presents a new way to treat sleep apnoea

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Post by tpoacher »

fnordpiglet wrote: post #37
DrAwdeOccarim wrote: post #7

Totally agree. My journey started with TMJ disorder. Turns out bruxism (teeth grinding) is common in sleep apnea patients; I assume because it forces the lower jaw forward. I started with a mandibular advancement device and it was amazing. It completely relived my debilitating TMJ jaw pain and fixed my sleep apnea. I couldn’t believe how amazing I fet every morning. Unfortunately, and which was clearly communicated t…

I want to emphasize the importance of seeming an ENT. I also saw an ENT, but very early in my journey. I also had sinus surgery. After recovery was the first time in my life I could breathe fully through my nose. I had no idea - it was like being blind and being able to see for the first time, except I had no inkling others could see. That actually opened up a realization that the sinus issues they fixed had led to c…

it's important to point out that sinus irrigation is said to be able to cause a brain infection itself.

hence the need to sterilise your water by heating it first.

i have been doing sinus irrigation with a syringe filled with water straight from the tap for years; i was horrified when a friend pointed this out to me.

Re: Flipping the model presents a new way to treat sleep apnoea

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Post by DrAwdeOccarim »

DenisM wrote: post #26
DrAwdeOccarim wrote: post #7

Totally agree. My journey started with TMJ disorder. Turns out bruxism (teeth grinding) is common in sleep apnea patients; I assume because it forces the lower jaw forward. I started with a mandibular advancement device and it was amazing. It completely relived my debilitating TMJ jaw pain and fixed my sleep apnea. I couldn’t believe how amazing I fet every morning. Unfortunately, and which was clearly communicated t…

> I love my nasal pillows plus chin strap CPAP Speaking of chin straps - I could never get one to work, but “Caldera Releaf Neck rest” collar worked a treat.

Totally agree! I went through tons of them. The one that finally worked for me was this one: https://www.amazon.com/PRIMADA-Premium-White-Support-Industr...

It's basically a 4 inch wide soft elastic band with velcro on the ends.

Re: Flipping the model presents a new way to treat sleep apnoea

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Post by DrAwdeOccarim »

tpoacher wrote: post #95
fnordpiglet wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I want to emphasize the importance of seeming an ENT. I also saw an ENT, but very early in my journey. I also had sinus surgery. After recovery was the first time in my life I could breathe fully through my nose. I had no idea - it was like being blind and being able to see for the first time, except I had no inkling others could see. That actually opened up a realization that the sinus issues they fixed had led to c…

it's important to point out that sinus irrigation is said to be able to cause a brain infection itself. hence the need to sterilise your water by heating it first. i have been doing sinus irrigation with a syringe filled with water straight from the tap for years; i was horrified when a friend pointed this out to me.

Yea, this is why I just pay for the sterile sensimist nasal saline spray: https://www.amazon.com/Simply-Saline-Adult-Nasal-Original/dp...

Re: Flipping the model presents a new way to treat sleep apnoea

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Post by DrAwdeOccarim »

fnordpiglet wrote: post #68
avivo wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's worth knowing that, according to some recent research, taking a topical antibiotic like this might have permanent impacts on microbiome in your nose (and lead to drug resistance.)

Yes, but systemic antibiotics are substantially worse in this regard as they change your entire systemic micro biome, and a chronic sinus infection is a permanent highly negative micro biome in your nose. Sometimes it’s better to hit the reset button than endure misery for the rest of your life :-)

Just to add this, my ENT prescribed a nasal probiotic prior to my surgery due to staph risk. I used it for 6 months prior to the surgery and now I continue to use it because, either it's a placebo or something special, it seems to improve the airflow in my nose beyond what I'd expect from just squirting some buffered water up my nose. Additionally, I seem to have fewer head-colds that also seem to resolve more rapidly (I have two small children, so my house is literally an incubator for infections). This is the product: https://liviaone.com/collections/probiotics/products/probiot... in case you were curious.

Re: Flipping the model presents a new way to treat sleep apnoea

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Post by DrAwdeOccarim »

DenisM wrote: post #26
DrAwdeOccarim wrote: post #7

Totally agree. My journey started with TMJ disorder. Turns out bruxism (teeth grinding) is common in sleep apnea patients; I assume because it forces the lower jaw forward. I started with a mandibular advancement device and it was amazing. It completely relived my debilitating TMJ jaw pain and fixed my sleep apnea. I couldn’t believe how amazing I fet every morning. Unfortunately, and which was clearly communicated t…

> I love my nasal pillows plus chin strap CPAP Speaking of chin straps - I could never get one to work, but “Caldera Releaf Neck rest” collar worked a treat.

Omg, I purchased one of the Caldera neck rest collars and slept with it on last night instead of my chin strap. Wow is all I can say. Normally my AHI is around 2, it was 0.2 last night. What is this black magic!? Thanks so much internet stranger!

Re: Flipping the model presents a new way to treat sleep apnoea

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Post by DenisM »

DrAwdeOccarim wrote: post #99
DenisM wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I love my nasal pillows plus chin strap CPAP Speaking of chin straps - I could never get one to work, but “Caldera Releaf Neck rest” collar worked a treat.

Omg, I purchased one of the Caldera neck rest collars and slept with it on last night instead of my chin strap. Wow is all I can say. Normally my AHI is around 2, it was 0.2 last night. What is this black magic!? Thanks so much internet stranger!

You’re welcome.
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