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Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by ip26 » Wed, Aug 23, 2023, 4:26 AM UTC

Meegul wrote: post #413

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> Typically employees make poor money in comparison to what kind of profit they generate I think it’s the opposite - developers are overvalued.

I understand where that sentiment comes from, especially looking at the slew of mid-sized companies that have never turned a profit despite paying multiple hundred K TCs, but if you look at the profits of the giants, it paints a different picture. The labor of thousands of very highly compensated engineers is still a drop in the bucket of the revenue generated by their labor. Alphabet seemingly employs somewhere betw…

That raises an interesting question. If developers are toiling equally hard at company A and company B, on similar products, but company A currently had a dominant market position over company B thanks to network effects - are the developers at company A in any way responsible for its outsize gains and therefore due millions of dollars in TC?

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by matthew-wegner » Wed, Aug 23, 2023, 4:27 AM UTC

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matthew-wegner wrote: post #5

Why is M2 Ultra support missing? I'm curious more than anything--lack of developer hardware? Something technical? "The Khronos website lists all conformant implementations, including our drivers for the M1, M1 Pro/Max/Ultra, M2, and M2 Pro/Max." Edit: Interesting that so many people are downvoting this. I'm not complaining; I didn't know, so I asked a question. Seems like the answer is that it's too new, especially w…

It's missing because Apple doesn't release drivers or upstream the drivers so it's on hobbyists to reverse engineer them.

What do you mean by "upstream" in this context? https://github.com/apple-open-source/macos ? Something else?

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by Cloudef » Wed, Aug 23, 2023, 4:27 AM UTC

amelius wrote: post #322

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"Of course, Asahi Lina and I are two individuals with minimal funding. It’s a little awkward that we beat the big corporation…" Love the euphemism. This puts Apple to shame, plain and simple. They obviously don't care about standards, or compliance, because they like people to be walled in their own little private garden (still waiting for the facetime standard, or any kind of cross-platform technology created in the…

> If i weren't an iOS dev, i would have ran away from the apple ecosystem a long time ago. Yeah, instead of drivers for M1, I'd be more impressed+happy if someone implemented the iOS APIs running on Linux, like we have Wine for Windows on Linux.

https://www.darlinghq.org/

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by jwells89 » Wed, Aug 23, 2023, 4:29 AM UTC

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> In my experience, Apple doesn't like any standards it doesn't control with an iron fist I would add some nuance to this statement: "Apple likes open standards when it is weak." The iMac and early OS X went big on open standards, and Jobs made a point of pointing this out: USB for the iMac, JPEG, MPG, mp3, Postscript etc for OSX. IP/TCP built in. They even paid the danegeld for .rtf. Then as they clawed their way ba…

Then as they clawed their way back from the precipice, they started "adding value" again. I don't know if I can agree. On the software side, MacOS supports all those things. On the hardware side, it's still (edit: almost) nothing but industry-standard ports.

One thing that I've enjoyed is how for decades Mail.app has been first and foremost a generic IMAP mail client, with features specific to iCloud Mail being far and few between. It works exactly as well with e.g. Fastmail as it does iCloud Mail. Conversely, iCloud Mail is just plain old IMAP and works fine with other generic IMAP clients.

Compare this with Gmail for example, which has a crummy IMAP implementation, and though the Gmail mobile app supports adding non-Google IMAP accounts, it clearly prioritizes being a Gmail client.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by sbuk » Wed, Aug 23, 2023, 4:37 AM UTC

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If you go fullscreen in a WSL terminal, at least the ads can't hurt you. I still get jumpscared by the Apple Music popup when I put on my headphones with a Mac...

> If you go fullscreen in a WSL terminal, at least the ads can't hurt you. Ads? What ads?

Apparently, there are ads everywhere in macOS. By which, they mean the notifications in settings that upsell iCloud, or when News or Apple Music opens, there is a prompt to subscribe to the service. Can they be invasive? I suppose so, but I believe the GP is exaggerating somewhat. There are far more egregious examples in Google and Microsoft properties (cue something about Apple being the richest...)

There also appears to be an issue when connecting or plugging in headphones where Music.app opens automatically. I've tried to replicate this in Monterey and Ventura using AirPods, Beats and Sony MDR-7506 without success. Researching online suggests that this is a LaunchAgent/LaunchDaemon or cache problem. In short, it's a relatively simple bug to fix. Certainly annoying, but anyone with the tiniest bit of experience - especially in a field like DevOps - should be able to diagnose and correct.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by brinyflap » Wed, Aug 23, 2023, 4:38 AM UTC

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I love what they're doing, but last time I clicked a link for asahilinux on hacker news I was taken to a pop up that specifically said that readers from Hacker News are not welcomed on their site and couldn't read their content.

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Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by creato » Wed, Aug 23, 2023, 4:39 AM UTC

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Harmful by what standard? The moderation here is among the best on the web, what on earth are you talking about? Even if there are a tiny minority of toxic users, blocking access to all seems like the issue may not be with HN... Edit: ok I missed some previous discussions, eg https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36971867#37000629 for earlier similarly dubious generalisations and complaints providing context.

In my opinion, HN comments/users skew heavily towards cynicism/negativity. It may be a tiny minority, but I don’t think it’s a tiny minority of the most vocal users.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by sbuk » Wed, Aug 23, 2023, 4:43 AM UTC

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”…missing back gesture/button” Swipe from the left of the screen goes back a page in the current app. Swiping right on the bar at the bottom goes back to the previous app used. Two different locations but the same gesture. What else is missing for a back gesture/button?

Back gesture on iOS only works within an app. Back button on Android works system-wide (cross-app).

Swiping along the bottom of the screen goes to the last used app.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by kaba0 » Wed, Aug 23, 2023, 4:45 AM UTC

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Can someone give concrete examples, why? Let’s exclude the learning.

Apple have less constraints so their API is more straightforward (less abstractions) and less verbose, Vulkan give you more control, but at the expense of a more convoluted, verbose and complex API, people like to joke about the amount of code one need to write in order to render a triangle with Vulkan

Though arguably, going from first triangle to a semi-complex scene is relatively few additional lines, for what it’s worth.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by CoolCold » Wed, Aug 23, 2023, 4:45 AM UTC

> Of course, Asahi Lina and I are two individuals with minimal funding. It’s a little awkward that we beat the big corporation…

It's sort of battle when the opponent have not come to the battlefield at all due to no interest...I'd say corporataltion was beaten is bit of stretch here.