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Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by WhereIsTheTruth »

TillE wrote: post #395
WhereIsTheTruth wrote: post #319

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> 1. Apple conforms to the existing standards of OpenGL and Vulkan we see gaining steam for many film and game production pipelines. Read what gamedevs have to say about this, Metal is more appreciated than Vulkan > 2. Apple tries to throw its weight around and force devs to support their Metal standards even more, ultimately hoping to force the world onto Metal + macOS. Apple was part of the Vulkan working group, kn…

Do you mean engine developers who actually use the Metal API, or game developers writing shader code? I know game developers prefer HLSL (Direct3D) over GLSL, but I dunno what people think about MSL.

> I know game developers prefer HLSL (Direct3D) over GLSL

That's my sentiment as well

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by meragrin_ »

smoldesu wrote: post #428
dimgl wrote: post #386

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> everything is a giant pain Have you ever used a Windows machine?

If you go fullscreen in a WSL terminal, at least the ads can't hurt you. I still get jumpscared by the Apple Music popup when I put on my headphones with a Mac...

> If you go fullscreen in a WSL terminal, at least the ads can't hurt you.

Ads? What ads?

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by brokenmachine »

i_am_jl wrote: post #226
gumby wrote: post #211

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> In my experience, Apple doesn't like any standards it doesn't control with an iron fist I would add some nuance to this statement: "Apple likes open standards when it is weak." The iMac and early OS X went big on open standards, and Jobs made a point of pointing this out: USB for the iMac, JPEG, MPG, mp3, Postscript etc for OSX. IP/TCP built in. They even paid the danegeld for .rtf. Then as they clawed their way ba…

>The iphone was an HTML device, loudly repudiating the proprietary (and terrible) Flash much less the crappy, mostly stillborn "mobile HTML" attempts. Skipping Flash wasn't so much an ideological decision as a practical one. At the time Steve Jobs listed a ton of reasons that they didn't implement Flash. Listed among them were concerns about it not being an open standard, inferiority to H.264, security and performanc…

I remember my old Samsung Galaxy Note (or was it the Note 3?) could actually sense when your finger was near the screen but not touching, for mouseover events.

I always wondered why that feature didn't continue - I remember it working quite well, but IIRC it only worked in Chrome browser.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by meragrin_ »

dimgl wrote: post #386
nwellinghoff wrote: post #194

I really wish nerds would stop supporting Apple hardware and software. It is so closed and everything is a giant pain. Its one thing for the average non-techie that does not want to do anything advanced and just wants to swallow the blue pill. But for an actual techie to support a system that is the antithesis of general purpose compute...Can you even be considered a true techie anymore? I just don't get it.

> everything is a giant pain Have you ever used a Windows machine?

> Have you ever used a Windows machine?

Yep. I find it much better than anything Apple.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by zamadatix »

rowanG077 wrote: post #409
zamadatix wrote: post #145

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Valve already contracts Alyssa. Arguably they have more business use case for the skillset than Apple.

I don't think Valve contracts Alyssa. I think she is working for RH.

https://rosenzweig.io/resume.pdf

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by throwaway2037 »

JohnBooty wrote: post #341
gumby wrote: post #286

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I didn't say they necessarily denigrated the open formats but added and preferred their own proprietary image, audio etc formats as they gained market strength. On the hardware side I'm delighted by Apple's USB C/TB push (and Apple contributed a lot to those standards, esp based on what they had learned with Lightning) but note they revived the proprietary "magsafe" connecter on recent laptops (though you can still u…

That's true. I forgot they brought Magsafe back. (Side note: I don't know why they couldn't just make a standard USB-C connector, except magnetic...)

About your side note: That seems physically impossible. Magsafe only has five pins, and is larger than USB-C, which has twenty-four pins. To me, USB-C is a modern miracle. It is so small, reasonably strong, reversible, and has very high pin density.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by zamadatix »

pantalaimon wrote: post #266
zamadatix wrote: post #145

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Valve already contracts Alyssa. Arguably they have more business use case for the skillset than Apple.

I thought she’s working for Collabora. But she’s still a student, so only part time.

She did right up until earlier this year and she just got her bachelor's a couple of months ago (all according to her public resume). Crazy stuff, awesome to see.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by mellosouls »

slikrick wrote: post #404
ajdude wrote: post #228

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I love what they're doing, but last time I clicked a link for asahilinux on hacker news I was taken to a pop up that specifically said that readers from Hacker News are not welcomed on their site and couldn't read their content.

[flagged]

Harmful by what standard? The moderation here is among the best on the web, what on earth are you talking about?

Even if there are a tiny minority of toxic users, blocking access to all seems like the issue may not be with HN...

Edit: ok I missed some previous discussions, eg

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36971867#37000629

for earlier similarly dubious generalisations and complaints providing context.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by wlesieutre »

i_am_jl wrote: post #263
jjoonathan wrote: post #249

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That could have been overcome. The general crustiness of flash could not have been (from Apple's POV). Apple used to ship a dev app called "Spin Control" that would log stack traces whenever an app failed to drain its event queue in a timely manner (i.e. beachball). One time I accidentally left this open for an entire week, went about a bunch of assorted business, and when I came back every single stack trace had to…

I was mistaken, I found a copy of Jobs' letter re:Flash and he does cite the proprietary nature of Flash and Apple's lack of control over the content served on its platform as the most important reason Flash was kept off the iPhone. https://www.cnet.com/culture/steve-jobs-letter-explaining-ap... As hard as it was to believe: Flash had been responsible for every single beachball that week. Yikes. I used OSX and Flash…

Better than OS 9 and Flash when it would bring down the whole system!

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by ThatPlayer »

scarface_74 wrote: post #345
dgellow wrote: post #342

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Still no iPhone with USB-C :(

This year definitely because of the EU mandate. It will probably still be nerfed like the low end iPad that has USB C. But still transfers at USB 2 speeds

As long as it has DP alt-mode for HDMI, I'm happy. Unlike Lightning that doesn't do that, so they package a full h264 decoder into that HDMI adapter.

The USB 2 thing is probably like the Raspberry Pi 4: the SoC only supports 2.0. Older iPads and the Pi4 have a full USB 3.0 controller external to the SoC. Apple likes to re-use the previous year's SoC and no point doing USB 3.0 before. I could see the pro models doing 3.0 since it'll probably be a new SoC

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