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Re: Skiff – Privacy-first end-to-end encrypted email

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Post by rnk »

amilich wrote: post #9
esdf wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Skiff says they encrypt email subjects while protonmail does not. I cannot determine from browsing if they encrypt the sender and receiver addresses. Skiff's free tier also has a 'generous' free tier with 4 aliases, 10GB of drive (only? combined with email?) storage, and custom domain support (? !)

Hello! I'm one of the founders. We do end-to-end encrypt email subjects. Sender/receiver addresses are not to ensure email goes to the right person. 10 GB drive is used across all Skiff products.

And domain support?

Re: Skiff – Privacy-first end-to-end encrypted email

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Post by amilich »

ssddanbrown wrote: post #7

Their website describes this as open source but their linked repo is under CC BY-NC-SA 4.0 [1] so not commonly regarded as open source, but instead source available. They have been made aware of this [2]. Additionally, I think it may only be the front-end parts of their apps that are source available, I'm not sure the server-side parts of their app have sources published. [1] https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-n…

Hello! Yes, we're working on this. Note that our UI, cryptography, and editor libraries are MIT licensed.

Re: Skiff – Privacy-first end-to-end encrypted email

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Post by ginsbergjason »

rnk wrote: post #11
amilich wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hello! I'm one of the founders. We do end-to-end encrypt email subjects. Sender/receiver addresses are not to ensure email goes to the right person. 10 GB drive is used across all Skiff products.

And domain support?

you can transfer a custom domain on the free tier. we also let you register custom domains directly inside the product.

Re: Skiff – Privacy-first end-to-end encrypted email

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Post by amilich »

rnk wrote: post #11
amilich wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hello! I'm one of the founders. We do end-to-end encrypt email subjects. Sender/receiver addresses are not to ensure email goes to the right person. 10 GB drive is used across all Skiff products.

And domain support?

Yes, we have custom domain support with DKIM/DMARC/SPF all enabled.

Re: Skiff – Privacy-first end-to-end encrypted email

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Post by ginsbergjason »

tikkun wrote: post #5
ifeja wrote: post #3

How long is it free for?

As another perspective, I personally prefer products that are paid because it makes me less concerned that my data is the product, and less concerned that the product will disappear or stop improving.

we offer 3 paid tiers in addition to the free tier. you can also purchase custom domains directly inside skiff.

Re: Skiff – Privacy-first end-to-end encrypted email

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Post by amilich »

redeux wrote: post #4

The pricing page is confusing to me. It doesn’t mention anything about email in the free tier. It just says: > Unlimited pages > Desktop, tablet, and mobile access > IPFS support > Full text search Which seems to be all about the document service, but it also doesn’t mention how much storage I get. I assume it’s not unlimited despite saying “Unlimited pages.” Also, I can see that Skiff has raised over $14M in VC fund…

Are you possibly on a different or old page (or article)? Check out https://skiff.com/pricing and scroll down, it has 20+ features. We have thousands of paid users!

Re: Skiff – Privacy-first end-to-end encrypted email

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Post by ginsbergjason »

redeux wrote: post #4

The pricing page is confusing to me. It doesn’t mention anything about email in the free tier. It just says: > Unlimited pages > Desktop, tablet, and mobile access > IPFS support > Full text search Which seems to be all about the document service, but it also doesn’t mention how much storage I get. I assume it’s not unlimited despite saying “Unlimited pages.” Also, I can see that Skiff has raised over $14M in VC fund…

you're right it is confusing. we're updating it now.

Re: Skiff – Privacy-first end-to-end encrypted email

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Post by redeux »

amilich wrote: post #16
redeux wrote: post #4

The pricing page is confusing to me. It doesn’t mention anything about email in the free tier. It just says: > Unlimited pages > Desktop, tablet, and mobile access > IPFS support > Full text search Which seems to be all about the document service, but it also doesn’t mention how much storage I get. I assume it’s not unlimited despite saying “Unlimited pages.” Also, I can see that Skiff has raised over $14M in VC fund…

Are you possibly on a different or old page (or article)? Check out https://skiff.com/pricing and scroll down, it has 20+ features. We have thousands of paid users!

Interesting. No, I went to that page but on mobile. I didn’t scroll all the way down past the tiers. You have to scroll way down to see that info. It’s probably fine on desktop but less than ideal on mobile. My 2-cents anyway.

Re: Skiff – Privacy-first end-to-end encrypted email

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Post by amilich »

redeux wrote: post #18
amilich wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you possibly on a different or old page (or article)? Check out https://skiff.com/pricing and scroll down, it has 20+ features. We have thousands of paid users!

Interesting. No, I went to that page but on mobile. I didn’t scroll all the way down past the tiers. You have to scroll way down to see that info. It’s probably fine on desktop but less than ideal on mobile. My 2-cents anyway.

Ah, ok. Updating it now! Thanks for the feedback, you're totally right. It's probably 18 months old.
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