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Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by JohnBooty »

gumby wrote: post #286
JohnBooty wrote: post #281

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Then as they clawed their way back from the precipice, they started "adding value" again. I don't know if I can agree. On the software side, MacOS supports all those things. On the hardware side, it's still (edit: almost) nothing but industry-standard ports.

I didn't say they necessarily denigrated the open formats but added and preferred their own proprietary image, audio etc formats as they gained market strength. On the hardware side I'm delighted by Apple's USB C/TB push (and Apple contributed a lot to those standards, esp based on what they had learned with Lightning) but note they revived the proprietary "magsafe" connecter on recent laptops (though you can still u…

That's true. I forgot they brought Magsafe back. (Side note: I don't know why they couldn't just make a standard USB-C connector, except magnetic...)

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by dgellow »

scarface_74 wrote: post #338
softfalcon wrote: post #197

I wonder if support for OpenGL, Vulkan, etc will improve now that Apple is partnering with nVidia, Adobe, Autodesk, Microsoft, etc around the OpenUSD rendering/animation/CAD/3D-scene format? Considering the whole schtick of OpenUSD is "one file format that renders consistently everywhere" (paraphrasing), I would be surprised if Apple doesn't use it as a means to cement more 3D software vendors into macOS land. It's r…

> Apple doesn't like any standards it doesn't control with an iron fist You mean like SCSI, FireWire, USB-A, USB-C, USB 3.x, Bluetooth, Qi charging, H264, AAC?

Still no iPhone with USB-C :(

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by kossTKR »

camgunz wrote: post #324
kossTKR wrote: post #313

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Isn't that a weird thing to say when this thread is filled with people absolutely praising them and this achievement? I doubt HN is more or less toxic than traffic from any other mainstream site, but maybe i'm wrong.

I imagine since they're on the receiving end, they'd know. Also if even one HNer tried to dox me I'd ban the lot of you, and I'm a relatively cantankerous straight white guy.

I get it. I guess i find it so exceedingly bizarre to dox someone, especially when known for being brilliant people - it probably doesn't register properly.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by paulmd »

zamadatix wrote: post #137
klausa wrote: post #125

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Can you use Windows drivers for your GPU on Linux?

Intel did. Obviously there is more to it than just setting a different target and hitting compile but it's also not a ridiculous question because of that measure alone. It'd require enabling reduced security mode to load kexts or a custom kernel as well as a good amount of additional code for interfacing it with the macOS kernel interfaces but the majority of the code would be reused. Not trivial by any measure but a…

intel's linux driver is completely different from the windows driver. it also has been open since the start (well, since the start of the rewrite in 2010 or something) actually before AMD did theirs.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by scarface_74 »

dgellow wrote: post #342
scarface_74 wrote: post #338

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> Apple doesn't like any standards it doesn't control with an iron fist You mean like SCSI, FireWire, USB-A, USB-C, USB 3.x, Bluetooth, Qi charging, H264, AAC?

Still no iPhone with USB-C :(

This year definitely because of the EU mandate. It will probably still be nerfed like the low end iPad that has USB C. But still transfers at USB 2 speeds

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by paulmd »

kelnos wrote: post #308
AceJohnny2 wrote: post #293

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That's because HN has since removed referral headers on links, to work around this specific kind of blockage.

Hm, strange, HN seems to set referrer-policy to 'origin', which seems like it should send a referer header when going to external sites[0]? But clearly it does not. So I guess I'm just misunderstanding how that header works. [0] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Re...

Asahi and a few other websites blocked HN traffic (because of the aforementioned problems) and then HN added special nofollow/noreferrer for only these domains to prevent this. and then the sites responded with more assertive measures.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by masfuerte »

MBCook wrote: post #323
kossTKR wrote: post #313

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Isn't that a weird thing to say when this thread is filled with people absolutely praising them and this achievement? I doubt HN is more or less toxic than traffic from any other mainstream site, but maybe i'm wrong.

There a reason a number of sites have taken similar positions about HN. It’s more toxic on a few axis.

> toxic on a few axes.

(Sorry, you did tee it up)

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by selectodude »

eru wrote: post #273
selectodude wrote: post #44

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My brand new work thinkpad is total garbage compared to my two year old MacBook Pro. Only laptop where I need to use an external mouse.

Did work install any crapware on the laptop? Or is it bad even without?

The software is fine. The computer isn’t slow at all. It’s just not a well designed computer.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by paulmd »

insanitybit wrote: post #138
sharts wrote: post #99

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When most people you know use iMessage then Android is a bad experience. Also, as someone who switched from Pixels and other Android devices to the Apple ecosystem . It’s nice that everything “just works.” It’s kind of like running BSD or Debian stable after having been on Fedora/Arch/etc.

> When most people you know use iMessage then Android is a bad experience. Isn't this because Android uses open standards for its SMS and iOS refuses to do so?

RCS as a baseline standard is proprietary, but google then slapped a bunch of proprietary extensions onto it that it refuses to license, so no, it's not.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/08/new-google-site-begs...

> Google's version of RCS—the one promoted on the website with Google-exclusive features like optional encryption—is definitely proprietary, by the way. If this is supposed to be a standard, there's no way for a third-party to use Google's RCS APIs right now. Some messaging apps, like Beeper, have asked Google about integrating RCS and were told there's no public RCS API and no plans to build one. Google has an RCS API already, but only Samsung is allowed to use it because Samsung signed some kind of partnership deal.

> If you want to implement RCS, you'll need to run the messages through some kind of service, and who provides that server? It will probably be Google. Google bought Jibe, the leading RCS server provider, in 2015. Today it has a whole sales pitch about how Google Jibe can "help carriers quickly scale RCS services, iterate in short cycles, and benefit from improvements immediately." So the pitch for Apple to adopt RCS isn't just this public-good nonsense about making texts with Android users better; it's also about running Apple's messages through Google servers. Google profits in both server fees and data acquisition.

Like c'mon google doesn't care about open-standards except insofar as that allows them to embrace-extend-extinguish. google's end goal is imessage but with google servers in the middle instead of apple ones.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by brianpan »

jjoonathan wrote: post #249
i_am_jl wrote: post #226

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>The iphone was an HTML device, loudly repudiating the proprietary (and terrible) Flash much less the crappy, mostly stillborn "mobile HTML" attempts. Skipping Flash wasn't so much an ideological decision as a practical one. At the time Steve Jobs listed a ton of reasons that they didn't implement Flash. Listed among them were concerns about it not being an open standard, inferiority to H.264, security and performanc…

That could have been overcome. The general crustiness of flash could not have been (from Apple's POV). Apple used to ship a dev app called "Spin Control" that would log stack traces whenever an app failed to drain its event queue in a timely manner (i.e. beachball). One time I accidentally left this open for an entire week, went about a bunch of assorted business, and when I came back every single stack trace had to…

Not hard to believe. Reliability was one of the points in Steve Jobs' _Thoughts on Flash_:

> We also know first hand that Flash is the number one reason Macs crash. We have been working with Adobe to fix these problems, but they have persisted for several years now. We don’t want to reduce the reliability and security of our iPhones, iPods and iPads by adding Flash.

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