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Windows 11 has made the “clean Windows install” an oxymoron

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Re: Windows 11 has made the “clean Windows install” an oxymoron

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Post by supertrope »

littlecranky67 wrote: post #57

The year of the Linux Desktop is finally here. Not because Linux solved any of it's problems or added long-awaited features, no. Just because Windows gets shittier every day by adding more crapware, dark patterns, telemetry, and nudging dialogs.

Apple’s “post-PC” marketing line became reality for many individuals. Not because they bought Macs and iPhones but because many Windows problems were avoided on mobile operating systems. Mobile browsers and apps have the majority of mindshare.

Mobile devices wake instantly. Official app stores are much safer from malware than the Windows software acquisition ecosystem of running an Internet search, the first search result being malware, he website having fake download buttons, and downloading often unsigned .exe files. There’s no anti-virus software bogging down I/O. There’s less maintenance like disk defragmentation, Windows Updates that take an hour and require a forced restart. Users can’t get lost opening a file they downloaded because files are hidden away through the abstraction of apps. If you’re just consuming content you might not even own a PC.

Re: Windows 11 has made the “clean Windows install” an oxymoron

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Post by trustingtrust »

gumballindie wrote: post #136
trustingtrust wrote: post #55

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I use an iPhone and other than that I hope to not use anything else that’s so cloud reliable. Maybe an AppleTV if I get one, but I only watch sports so a few cable channels are more than enough for me I think.

The nasty issue is that even tvs are turning into covert spies and are starting to show ads. So even if all you do is watch cable channels, the TV itself might still be spying on you. You perhaps need a "filter" such as a raspberry pi or a device that can transfer content via HDMI and have the tv completely cutoff from the internet. Really dubious times we are in.

Just don't use wifi or connect your TV to the internet. That works for me. My TV is online only during firmware updates which almost never happen cause its become old and those stopped long time ago.

Re: Windows 11 has made the “clean Windows install” an oxymoron

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Post by not_your_vase »

kouteiheika wrote: post #30
not_your_vase wrote: post #12

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Windows is nowadays required for maybe 2 major things: games (I know, Wine is a thing, but let's be honest: it is very much still a hit or miss), and some video conference software (e.g. webex with camera). I install Windows only for job interviews. Usually I install it 2 days ahead, and keep running windows update repeatedly, until it finally finishes with everything, and I can use the system for a 30 minutes call,…

> Windows is nowadays required for maybe 2 major things: games (I know, Wine is a thing, but let's be honest: it is very much still a hit or miss) I'll be honest: I find it that it's very much a hit nowadays, rather than a miss. With Valve doing so much work around Proton I can basically buy a random Windows-only game off Steam and... it just works. I don't even remember anymore a time when a game I wanted to play di…

Possibly you are right. Must admit, I don't play a lot on my PC. I play sometimes the Portal series, which runs natively on Linux. My data set for my previous statement is admittedly not a big one: the one that I wanted to use Wine for was the Syberia series (I'm old), which has reports ranging from "doesn't work" to "works perfectly". It didn't work for me: it randomly either crashed, or just froze a few minutes into the game. Granted, haven't tried it since at least a year or so.

Re: Windows 11 has made the “clean Windows install” an oxymoron

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Post by zihotki »

Simulacra wrote: post #133
hardware2win wrote: post #40

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I agree Start menu is slow as shit I have w11 at work and w10 at home and i see the diff

You might enjoy Classic Shell Start Menu. http://www.classicshell.net/

FYI, Classic Shell is discontinued, long live the https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu

Re: Windows 11 has made the “clean Windows install” an oxymoron

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Post by tetris11 »

jamal-kumar wrote: post #155
tetris11 wrote: post #22

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There are usually linux alternatives. Heimdall is a pretty good alternative to Odin

I started this thread and I will chime in on this Lmao nah that shit doesn't work

YMMV, but in my experience it works flawlessly.

If that fails there are chip specific tools you can use to read/write to the right partitions, such as the fantastic EDL tool for Qualcomm devices:

https://github.com/bkerler/edl

Re: Windows 11 has made the “clean Windows install” an oxymoron

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Post by capableweb »

zihotki wrote: post #164
Simulacra wrote: post #133

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You might enjoy Classic Shell Start Menu. http://www.classicshell.net/

FYI, Classic Shell is discontinued, long live the https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu

It will never cease to be strange to offer some software that does UI modifications without having any screenshots showing said modifications.

Re: Windows 11 has made the “clean Windows install” an oxymoron

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Post by roxil »

sotapanna wrote: post #149
roxil wrote: post #117

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If things are so frozen that you can't open System Monitor (task manager), try this: Hold down SysRq and Alt, let go of SysRq, keep holding down Alt, then press these buttons in order (don't need to hold them): REISUB - to remember it: "Raising Elephants Is So Utterly Boring", also known as "raising the elephant". On some systems you need to enable this feature first, so try it out once to see if it works and look up…

Are you on Windows 11? There is an ongoing fTPM issue with AMD firmware that can cause behavior like that. I had this issue and ultimately just disabled TPM in the BIOS. Its supposed to be required for Win 11, but I haven't seen any issues since disabling.

I will try this, thanks.

Re: Windows 11 has made the “clean Windows install” an oxymoron

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Post by Simulacra »

zihotki wrote: post #164
Simulacra wrote: post #133

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You might enjoy Classic Shell Start Menu. http://www.classicshell.net/

FYI, Classic Shell is discontinued, long live the https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu

It still works! I installed it on a Windows 11 machine, and it puts the little start button down there and it works. So while it may be discontinued, it's still very much works.

Re: Windows 11 has made the “clean Windows install” an oxymoron

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Post by aquir »

www_harka_com wrote: post #26
aquir wrote: post #2

In my eyes Microsoft Edge is even more annoying. Even if you install the "business" version you still get that shitty startpage and if you log in to remote desktop that takes ages to render and then you have to a bit of time turn that "start page thing" off. And MS moves the options around all the time! Such a pain! You can't just set about:blank as an empty tab page any more.

Sure you can. This is one of the first things I do on a new install: https://www.tenforums.com/browsers-email/167957-truly-blank-... Edit: I have a regedit file with the value "about:blank" and it just takes a double click.

This is great! Thanks for sharing
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