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Why I'm building Nilai - A simple bookmarking service

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Re: Why I'm building Nilai - A simple bookmarking service

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I checked out the site and while the comps you have there seem nice, I don't see what makes it different from other bookmarking services.

From the article, it seems the main feature of the service is that it will exist forever -- no sellouts. That is are very big claim to make, indeed. While very well intentioned and honorable, it is very difficult for anyone to say "this will never go away" and be able to back it up in a meaningful way. But good for him, nonetheless. In a time when apps and services are treated as throwaway commodities, his eagerness…

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Re: Why I'm building Nilai - A simple bookmarking service

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Good question. I can honestly tell you that given your needs, Nilai may never work well for you. I hope you find the exact service you're looking for though.

Thanks. I was hoping that a service that claims it will be around in 10 years might also come with features that make it easy for people to import and manage bookmarks from 10 years ago. But it seems that your needs are different.

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Re: Why I'm building Nilai - A simple bookmarking service

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Firefox. But this also includes bookmarks imported from various versions of other browsers, all the way back to IE6.

Ok cool, I've been investigating firefox json dump imports, so wanted to make sure that's what you were using.

Yes, the json dump is much more pleasant to work with than the old Netscape HTML format. To begin with, it can be easily parsed by any modern programming language. But the file I tried to import into Pinboard the other day was actually an HTML dump from Chrome, where I keep the same set of bookmarks modulo some private stuff. Not that it makes a difference when it comes to preserving folders.

Re: Why I'm building Nilai - A simple bookmarking service

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Ok cool, I've been investigating firefox json dump imports, so wanted to make sure that's what you were using.

Yes, the json dump is much more pleasant to work with than the old Netscape HTML format. To begin with, it can be easily parsed by any modern programming language. But the file I tried to import into Pinboard the other day was actually an HTML dump from Chrome, where I keep the same set of bookmarks modulo some private stuff. Not that it makes a difference when it comes to preserving folders.

Yea, the big issue is the denormalization of the data in the json dump. While it's machine readable, it's still a bit of a pita to put it together. The other thing is that since you're a folder user, how to you transition that to the tags concepts most services use. Right now I just import the folders as tags from the html dump, but want users that have tags in their stuff to be able to load the json dump to preserve those tags, which seems like it'd still not do what you were looking for. I need to make sure that nested folders means you get multiple tags during import, and I wonder if that'd help you out.

Re: Why I'm building Nilai - A simple bookmarking service

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"... cool to name the service an Indonesian word. Nilai is pronounced (as best as I can tell) Nee’-lie. It is an Indonesian word meaning mark."

Nilai means "a place" in Tamil, a language in South India. It has also many meanings. http://tamil.indiandictionaries.com/meaning.php?id=12587&#38...

Re: Why I'm building Nilai - A simple bookmarking service

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"... cool to name the service an Indonesian word. Nilai is pronounced (as best as I can tell) Nee’-lie. It is an Indonesian word meaning mark." Nilai means "a place" in Tamil, a language in South India. It has also many meanings. http://tamil.indiandictionaries.com/meaning.php?id=12587&#38...

Nilai is the name of a town not far from (an hour drive) where I'm staying: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nilai

In Malay, it means "value/worth".

Re: Why I'm building Nilai - A simple bookmarking service

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He mentions pinboard. the idea of pinboard is the same: no free users. So we have more trust in this service sticking around for the long haul. Also it's simple.

Maybe he should make a small table first listing the differentiating facts between his service and Delicious and Pinboard.

It's just not clear and I fear he will scratch his itch alone...

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