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Re: Upcoming .com and .xyz domain price increase

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post #228

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> So Joe Squatter will retain ownership, but permits company.com to use it for 99 years for the same price as he would have sold it for. Then company.com is going to object that they would lose the domain they've had for 99 years or be subject to an extortionate price increase, because they really actually do want to own it. And you can prohibit leasing domain names too. I mean this isn't that hard. You know who thes…

> company.com is going to object that they would lose the domain they've had for 99 years or be subject to an extortionate price increase Then do a perpetual lease, or 999 year lease, or pay every year, or [...] How would you enforce a prohibition of leases? Plus, the tricky bit here is there are lots of reasons for a domain owned by entity A to be used by entity B (companies might be related, might just be allowing…

> Then do a perpetual lease, or 999 year lease, or pay every year, or [...]

A perpetual or 99 year or 999 year lease is constructively a sale. Anything which is constructively a sale is banned.

Anything which is not constructively a sale will be rejected by the buyer, because they actually want to own the domain and not pay the danegeld to the squatter in perpetuity or be subject to extortionate price increases after they've committed to using the domain by publishing it in their advertising etc.

> How would you enforce a prohibition of leases?

If you offer to provide someone with use of a domain name in exchange for more money than you pay to the registrar to register it, you lose the domain name.

> Plus, the tricky bit here is there are lots of reasons for a domain owned by entity A to be used by entity B (companies might be related, might just be allowing a friend to use a domain, etc.)

You can use it all you want as long as you never pay them for it.

It doesn't matter if you can get around this with complicated corporate shenanigans because you can't sell that to arbitrary strangers who don't actually want to pay a premium for an unused domain.

If you advertise it in such a way that strangers understand you to be constructively selling the domain then they report you to the registry and you lose the domain, which then becomes unregistered and they can go register it for the ordinary nominal fee. If you don't advertise it in such a way that strangers understand you to be constructively selling the domain then you will have a much harder time finding anyone to pay you for it, as intended.

This isn't like drugs where both the buyer and seller want the transaction to happen. The seller wants the transaction to happen and the buyer wants the seller to go out of business and DIAF so the domain will be unregistered and they don't have to pay a shakedown tax for it. It's optimized for putting the sellers out of business because that's what the buyers want -- because the sellers provide no value to anybody and nobody but themselves wants them to exist.

Re: Upcoming .com and .xyz domain price increase

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post #205

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Namecheap should use some of this new revenue to fix their UI. Owning more than 10 domains on Namecheap is a burden. Trying to manage more than 50 is an outright headache [1]. I'm nearly to the point where I'm going to transfer all of my domains just to escape the poor management console. I've been giving them this same complaint for awhile [2]. I'm no fan of Godaddy [3], but they really did a good job with bulk mana…

I literally moved away from Namecheap when they did a UI redesign many years ago. Their old control panel was ugly but functional. Their new one looked much more "modern", but was way less information dense, and they introduced jank and made stuff take more clicks and hid stuff behind collapsed-by-default menus iirc. They also made their billing details UI no longer accept the letter "ø". The billing details UI which…

You probably already know this but there's no way for them to verify name on card. They can only verify address with AVS.

Re: Upcoming .com and .xyz domain price increase

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post #161

Namecheap's current .com renewal price of $14.58 is broken down as: $0.18 ICANN fee $8.97 Verisign's current registry fee $5.43 Namecheap's markup Namecheap's new .com renewal price of $15.88 will be broken down as: $0.18 ICANN fee (no change) $9.59 Verisign's new registry fee (7% increase) $6.11 Namecheap's new markup (13% increase) So the price increase is not entirely "out of [Namecheap's] control". They are also…

So it went up by less than $2.. per year.. and it's still less than $20.. per year. How are people talking about switching providers over this.

Re: Upcoming .com and .xyz domain price increase

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post #161

Namecheap's current .com renewal price of $14.58 is broken down as: $0.18 ICANN fee $8.97 Verisign's current registry fee $5.43 Namecheap's markup Namecheap's new .com renewal price of $15.88 will be broken down as: $0.18 ICANN fee (no change) $9.59 Verisign's new registry fee (7% increase) $6.11 Namecheap's new markup (13% increase) So the price increase is not entirely "out of [Namecheap's] control". They are also…

So it went up by less than $2.. per year.. and it's still less than $20.. per year. How are people talking about switching providers over this.

the principle of the matter

Re: Upcoming .com and .xyz domain price increase

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post #304

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So it went up by less than $2.. per year.. and it's still less than $20.. per year. How are people talking about switching providers over this.

the principle of the matter

It could double and I wouldn't be inconvenienced enough to care, different story if you have many domains though. I'm fine with NameCheap getting a little more profit for the good work they do.

Re: Upcoming .com and .xyz domain price increase

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$9.73 renewals at Porkbun. https://porkbun.com/tld/com

Wow! Porkbun! I nearly forgot about that place! Shamelessly been using Namecheap for a while now... their UI is a bit old school but they have some of the best prices around (at least did)

> their UI is a bit old school

This honestly is a (positive) feature IMO.

Re: Upcoming .com and .xyz domain price increase

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These increases are so frustrating. Verisign is making so much money basically selling you an idea with almost zero cost.

I'm surprised that there wasn't an internet revolution about that. But probably the bad apple/corrupted part here is the ICANN that let it go. We got some proof of that with the .org case.

Re: Upcoming .com and .xyz domain price increase

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post #64
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What about CloudFlare's "at-cost pricing for registration and renewal," they don't make a profit? [1] [1] https://www.cloudflare.com/products/registrar/

I wouldn't want my domain to be a marketing expenditure for a tech giant. Then you get a Google Domains style shitshow.

Is Cloudflare known for constantly starting up and shutting down products left, right, and centre though?

Re: Upcoming .com and .xyz domain price increase

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post #114

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I've had a problem with domain registration when I purchased a .com and they asked for all kinds of business licenses and asking what the purpose of the domain is. Obviously I was shocked as they have no right to ask for the purpose of the domain and I explained that this was not for a business but for a privately administered website. My registration was being denied again after back and forth with support, without…

Did you accidentally register as a business instead of an individual? I can't imagine why that happened, but I can say that my registrations have never been flagged and have always been straightforward.

My guess is his domain name contained a phrase that triggers US sanctions alarms. Things like "NICO" etc (don't put that in the reason for a bank transfer or it will get blocked)

Re: Upcoming .com and .xyz domain price increase

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And just to support how much verisign business is racketeering based on their Monopoly, look at their financials: https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/VRSN/verisign/fina...

They have stable negligible costs. R&d is just symbolic. Their biggest costs are administration fees that we can probably explain by their executives paying themselves q lot more than what their deserve.

The biggest part is just pure revenue. And they try to increase that consistently without valid reason.

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