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Re: All of the vehicle license plates available in America

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Yes, if I took out my gun and fired randomly at a crowd I'm never getting my carry permit back regardless of whether I actually kill anyone. Fuck drunk drivers.

> never getting my carry permit back 27 states don't require a permit. At all. Ponder that.

Dependant on your criminal history.

Re: All of the vehicle license plates available in America

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> Turns out the state required you to “wear” this license plate after your third DUI or something. This doesn't make much sense because the license plate is attached to the car, not the driver. Couldn't the manager just drive his wife's or friend's car or something? What purpose does the plate serve? "Warning everyone! A serial drink driver might be in this car, but might not be, and if he's in it he might be driving…

People usually drive their own car, and taking away someone's license can be life destroying in most parts of the country.

This sounds like a good reason to pursue policies that make taking away a license not life destroying, rather than pursuing policies that allow people to destroy lives by continuing to drink-drive.

Re: All of the vehicle license plates available in America

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People usually drive their own car, and taking away someone's license can be life destroying in most parts of the country.

Wait, is it not possible to get banned from driving in the USA? For comparison the drink driving penalties are here: https://www.gov.uk/drink-driving-penalties

Effectively, not really. You can get your license pulled, for a limited (but long) time. But just because you're no longer permitted to drive doesn't mean you won't.

It's difficult to register your car when you don't have a license, so then you usually stop registering your car too. And it's hard to get car insurance if you don't have an active license or a registered vehicle, so that's another thing to skip.

If you get pulled over, and have no license, no registration, and no insurance, but that's all that's really wrong, you'll most likely get a ticket, probably have your license suspended for longer, and might have your car taken away, but won't likely be put in jail. So, time to buy another cheap car, private party.

Re: All of the vehicle license plates available in America

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Interesting how many states offer out of state university plates. E.g. New York and Tennessee both offer Indiana University plates

And in that case, only New York and Tennessee.

Pennsylvania, Texas, North Carolina, South Carolina, Maryland, and Deleware offer Purdue plates -- and that's just looking up the universities I know well from growing up in Indiana

Re: All of the vehicle license plates available in America

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Personally, it’s all the other plate readers I care about too. I’m more a privacy nut than trying to evade police detection. I’d imagine, as with so much, cops just outsource it to a data broker type service. They feed the camera footage to a third party API that spits back matched data. Either plate info or human info. My data doesn’t need to go into so many tracking DBs. No way so many small agencies can do anythin…

May I ask why your plate information being out there concerns you? If it's 3rd party "plate readers" tracking your travel, your vehicle is already sending telemetry data outbound regardless, after you give the manufacturer 40 grand and you don't even get to pick which fancy picture goes on your car.

> your vehicle is already sending telemetry data outbound regardless,

Not anymore, thanks to the 3G cutoff :P

Re: All of the vehicle license plates available in America

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But you have to get caught first. USA is bigger on pulling vehicles over for ??? reasons than most other places. I’m figuring in UK if you get a DUI, it’s because you were driving allll over the place or got into a 3am collision.

I don't get your point. Are you defending people driving drunk in the USA because they are more likely to be caught? In my country it's also common to get caught after being stopped for speeding or car malfunction (like missing headlight), after a minor crash, by driving in a suspicious way, or just during a random check (that police is allowed to do). In total, around 450 drivers out of 1000 are tested for drunk-dri…

Generally, the more likely you are to get away with an offence, the steeper the penalty.

I can't speak for all EU countries, but I get the feeling that traffic enforcement is a lower priority by EU police than US/Canada.

Several hypothesized factors for this in EU: more competency-based licensing, more regular technical inspections of vehicles (so fewer missing headlights), more automated enforcement (so fewer in-person controls), less focus on revenue generation by police (again, fewer in-person speed/mechanical controls), and most collisions just being a matter of submitting paperwork to insurance without police involvement. In Ontario Canada, police interaction is mandatory if any injury, >$2k damage or public property damage, so 99% of collisions, which is far different than France at least.

So unless you have mobile alcohol checkpoints, even if drink-driving happens at the same rate as elsewhere, you're less likely to be caught in EU. And those that are caught probably did something more significant at the same time to warrant police attention.

But sounds like your country, testing 45% of drivers per year, makes up for those several factors I brought up. Doesn't seem to be the norm in my EU experience - I do ~25% of my driving there.

20 year old EU data on this on p. 21 here: https://road-safety.transport.ec.europa.eu/system/files/2021...

Re: All of the vehicle license plates available in America

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As coming from country with actually working IT, I always wondered about those year and month tags... I get my yearly tax directly as bill to my bank...

It's to notify police to stop the car if they see it on the road. The US has a lot of infrequently used or unused cars that gradually transition to a sedentary life in a garage or yard. It's not illegal to let your registration or inspection lapse if the car isn't being driven. If you drive a car with a lapsed registration or safety inspection sticker, police will notice, stop you, and issue a ticket.

> It's not illegal to let your registration or inspection lapse if the car isn't being driven.

True in many states, but California wants vehicles to have valid registration even if the vehicle is not at all operational. The owner gets a break on the cost, but Sacramento still wants their due.

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/vehicle-registration/vehicle-r...

Re: All of the vehicle license plates available in America

#180
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> Turns out the state required you to “wear” this license plate after your third DUI or something. This doesn't make much sense because the license plate is attached to the car, not the driver. Couldn't the manager just drive his wife's or friend's car or something? What purpose does the plate serve? "Warning everyone! A serial drink driver might be in this car, but might not be, and if he's in it he might be driving…

The theory is they'll just drive anyway without a license. Plus in many/most parts of the US, a car is effectively required to live, so removing one's ability to drive is a seriously major punishment. The whiskey plate indicates to other drivers that the car could be more dangerous than expected, and yes, I think the shame is supposed to be a component as well. It's harm reduction, not a perfect solution. I don't kno…

>>so removing one's ability to drive is a seriously major punishment.

Being caught drunk driving 3(!!!) times is a seriously major crime. I'm a strong advocate for a complete driving ban after a single drunk driving episode, 3 is just crazy to me. I get the argument that in US that basically makes it impossible to get anywhere without a car but I don't know - get a bicycle or something, literally anything is preferable to letting these people on the road again.

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