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Re: 5 years ago Valve released Proton

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I really wish the linux community would polish off the UX for ubuntu so it's more attractive and usable for mainstream

I think these days there are other distros that do it better, like Pop!_OS

In your opinion how does Pop!_OS it better?

Re: 5 years ago Valve released Proton

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Yep, if Apple could get over their stubbornness and work with Valve on this it would be fantastic for customers of both companies. Apple has done some work with their game porting toolkit to support certain flavors of DirectX games with a combo of Wine and Rosetta. But this isn’t officially pitched as tool for end users to run Windows games.

Why not switch to linux though? You know there's some real cool hardware available out there that looks and feels way better than a mac, and battery aside, can do a lot more, is upgradeable and not locked in. Just a thought.

> You know there's some real cool hardware available out there that looks and feels way better than a mac

Such as? And does it have Mac keyboard layout? Because it is absolutely superior to anything on non-Mac land.

Re: 5 years ago Valve released Proton

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Just went and checked, out of my top 20 games only flight simulator and space engineers do not work. I had completely missed that proton has come so far...I think this means I can finally truly ditch windows on my game/virtualisation machine

Re: 5 years ago Valve released Proton

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I really wish the linux community would polish off the UX for ubuntu so it's more attractive and usable for mainstream

I really wish Ubuntu would stop going their own way and work with everyone else.

And that's a more general comment than just this.

Re: 5 years ago Valve released Proton

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Why not switch to linux though? You know there's some real cool hardware available out there that looks and feels way better than a mac, and battery aside, can do a lot more, is upgradeable and not locked in. Just a thought.

> You know there's some real cool hardware available out there that looks and feels way better than a mac Such as? And does it have Mac keyboard layout? Because it is absolutely superior to anything on non-Mac land.

I like the asus proart studiobook. It has the option of a 3d display without glasses. Dial doesnt work though, but the specs are pretty decent and build quality is great. Battery life is shit unless you shutdown some cores and apply other scriptable settings. Keyboard feels better than any macbook i ever owned, better than the magic keyboard. Ram, hdds and wifi card are upgradeable and are of pretty good specs. Screen resolution is high, has a touchscreen, high refresh rate, usb, thunderbolt and hdmi ports, etc.

But you know taste is personal and there are plenty other options.

Re: 5 years ago Valve released Proton

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Proton might be great for the game itself. But something needs to be done about anti-cheat.

I only play multi-player games, and when I search ProtonDB none of the games I play say they are supported.

Call of Duty, Battlefield 2042, Rainbow 6 Seige, PUGB, Destiny 2

Re: 5 years ago Valve released Proton

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Proton is a remarkable accomplishment; I never believed it would have worked as well as it does. It helps that newer games are increasingly based on a couple of engines (Unity in particular) but its support for older games is also impressive.

Proton is the basis of Chromebook's experimental Steam games support. It works pretty well, as well as Proton itself as far as I can tell.

Re: 5 years ago Valve released Proton

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Why not switch to linux though? You know there's some real cool hardware available out there that looks and feels way better than a mac, and battery aside, can do a lot more, is upgradeable and not locked in. Just a thought.

> You know there's some real cool hardware available out there that looks and feels way better than a mac Such as? And does it have Mac keyboard layout? Because it is absolutely superior to anything on non-Mac land.

What's different about the mac layout? Looks fairly standard to me, even the labels seem the same, apart from the trivially remappable control/alt/command/meta/whatever keys...

Re: 5 years ago Valve released Proton

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Unless you statically linked GTK, possibly Xorg, and more into a ludicrous bundle size, you’d still be screwed. As for “just get the libs,” that’s hilariously easier said than done. Try my example - it’s enough to make an engineer cry.

No video game has any use for GTK+. XLib is tiny by modern standards.

>No video game has any use for GTK+

my memory might be wrong but I had issues with native linux games that had level editor based on GTK and python, could not get them to run after 3 years since launch, I do not claim it is impossible just that I could not do it with some a few hours effort.

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