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CCC Talk: All cops are broadcasting Obtaining the secret TETRA primitives [video]

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In this talk we will discuss the radio jailbreaking journey that enabled us to perform the first public disclosure and security analysis of the proprietary cryptography used in TETRA (Terrestrial Trunked Radio): a European standard for trunked radio globally used by government agencies, police, prisons, emergency services and military operators. Besides governemental applications, TETRA is also widely deployed in ind…

Great work! Can you post a photo of your lab? I'd love to see what gear you get to play with.

and please Mr. Hacker, also upload a copy of your ID Card. I really would like to talk to you. - a secret admirer of your work and totally not some agent

Re: CCC Talk: All cops are broadcasting Obtaining the secret TETRA primitives [video]

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We need open standards for radio protocols, including encryption. Outside of 802.11, it's a bleak landscape.

Security with obscurity mentality is rather still present at large.

We are talking about a standard over 30 years old... change happens. When it was first introduced the standard was fine the problem was never updating it. That said at least the German police uses additional crypto via smartcards.

Re: CCC Talk: All cops are broadcasting Obtaining the secret TETRA primitives [video]

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In this talk we will discuss the radio jailbreaking journey that enabled us to perform the first public disclosure and security analysis of the proprietary cryptography used in TETRA (Terrestrial Trunked Radio): a European standard for trunked radio globally used by government agencies, police, prisons, emergency services and military operators. Besides governemental applications, TETRA is also widely deployed in ind…

Wouldnt be able to do this in the UK, interception of any radio signals are illegal. The UK makes China, North Korea, Russia and [Insert most hated country here] look positively amateur. I wonder where George Orwell got his inspiration for 1984 from?

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Re: CCC Talk: All cops are broadcasting Obtaining the secret TETRA primitives [video]

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I misread the title at first.

It should be "CCC Talk: All cops are broadcasting.\n Obtaining the secret TETRA primitives [video]"

I read it as though all the cops are broadcasting that they have obtained the TETRA primitives. As in, they're bragging about bypassing encryption.

Re: CCC Talk: All cops are broadcasting Obtaining the secret TETRA primitives [video]

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Great work! Can you post a photo of your lab? I'd love to see what gear you get to play with.

and please Mr. Hacker, also upload a copy of your ID Card. I really would like to talk to you. - a secret admirer of your work and totally not some agent

You can get it from here:

https://shop.digitalcourage.de/themen/ak-vorrat/lichtbildaus...

Re: CCC Talk: All cops are broadcasting Obtaining the secret TETRA primitives [video]

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In this talk we will discuss the radio jailbreaking journey that enabled us to perform the first public disclosure and security analysis of the proprietary cryptography used in TETRA (Terrestrial Trunked Radio): a European standard for trunked radio globally used by government agencies, police, prisons, emergency services and military operators. Besides governemental applications, TETRA is also widely deployed in ind…

Wouldnt be able to do this in the UK, interception of any radio signals are illegal. The UK makes China, North Korea, Russia and [Insert most hated country here] look positively amateur. I wonder where George Orwell got his inspiration for 1984 from?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldnt be able to do this in the UK, interception of any radio signals are illegal. The UK makes China, North Korea, Russia and [Insert most hated country here] look positively amateur. I wonder where George Orwell got his inspiration for 1984 from?

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> Pro tip here: Put your batteries and power cables in a checked bag. Only take your cell and laptop as a carry-ons to prevent them from "disappearing". Works most of the time, especially with full flights and/or busy days.

Really, DO NOT do this! There's a reason batteries need to be in carry on luggage - because they can spontaneously catch fire mid flight, and while it might be unpleasant, if it does happen in the cabin it will be spotted and dealt with rather than having an uncontrolled fire in the luggage hold which is also generally rammed full of other flammable things like clothes.

And in any case, all carriers and governments require batteries to be in carry-on luggage AFAIK, so even if you disagree that there's a fire risk, you're still breaking the law. But then as the rest of your points seem to be mostly concerned with the possibility of being caught for breaking the law, I guess you don't care about that.

Re: CCC Talk: All cops are broadcasting Obtaining the secret TETRA primitives [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldnt be able to do this in the UK, interception of any radio signals are illegal. The UK makes China, North Korea, Russia and [Insert most hated country here] look positively amateur. I wonder where George Orwell got his inspiration for 1984 from?

Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union under Stalin. And apparently was inspired by the superpowers divvying up the world at the Teheran Conference. HTH.

> apparently was inspired by the superpowers divvying up the world at the Teheran Conference.

And the UK was part of that divvying up. Now knowing authors like to be nuanced and multi dimensioned, he couldn't exactly speak the truth about govt's including his own could he?

"The Tehran Conference was a meeting between U.S. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, British Prime Minister Winston Churchill, and Soviet Premier Joseph Stalin in Tehran, Iran, between November 28 and December 1, 1943." https://history.state.gov/milestones/1937-1945/tehran-conf

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