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Re: Upcoming .com and .xyz domain price increase

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Post by tedivm »

MuffinFlavored wrote: post #151
Vanclief wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why should namecheap subsidize the cost? That makes 0 sense and I say it as a namecheap customer. I don't see how its fair for them to cover the cost and I don't want them to do so because I am a happy customer and don't want them to go out of business or lower their product quality.

> Why should namecheap subsidize the cost Why are they entitled to have their profit margins protected no matter what? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wage-price_spiral https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation Certain businesses get made obsolete over time. Namecheap decided to pass along 100% of the cost, what if their competitor passes along 50%?

Namecheap is passing along 209% of their cost. They're raising prices on their cut more than Verisign is on theirs.

Re: Upcoming .com and .xyz domain price increase

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Post by listenallyall »

thayne wrote: post #93
monetus wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“I think calling them a monopoly at this point is an unfair comparison. Verisign is no more a monopoly than your Ford dealer is a monopoly,” Redl said. “It’s not the original days of the internet where that was the only top-level domain.” It is bothers me that the monopoly is excused this way.

If you already have a .com domain that all your customers are familiar with, its not like you can just switch to a different domain. _Maybe_ I could excuse this if it was only for new registrations, but left the price for renewals the same, at least for existing domain owners.

If your business is at a desirable address that customers are familiar with, and have visited for years... should you be entitled to 4 different landlords available to negotiate your next lease? Might be a nice thought but it's not a reality. You've got one landlord, make peace with that, or move.

Re: Upcoming .com and .xyz domain price increase

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Post by echelon »

agwa wrote: post #161

Namecheap's current .com renewal price of $14.58 is broken down as: $0.18 ICANN fee $8.97 Verisign's current registry fee $5.43 Namecheap's markup Namecheap's new .com renewal price of $15.88 will be broken down as: $0.18 ICANN fee (no change) $9.59 Verisign's new registry fee (7% increase) $6.11 Namecheap's new markup (13% increase) So the price increase is not entirely "out of [Namecheap's] control". They are also…

Namecheap should use some of this new revenue to fix their UI.

Owning more than 10 domains on Namecheap is a burden. Trying to manage more than 50 is an outright headache [1]. I'm nearly to the point where I'm going to transfer all of my domains just to escape the poor management console. I've been giving them this same complaint for awhile [2].

I'm no fan of Godaddy [3], but they really did a good job with bulk management and organization.

Any recommendations for alternative registrars on the dimensions of price, security, TLD support, DNS, and bulk operation / organization features?

[1] I'm not a squatter. I own typos and alternative TLDs of my primary product domains, and I operate lots of websites for various side projects.

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29406698

[3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32470260

Re: Upcoming .com and .xyz domain price increase

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Post by stOneskull »

echelon wrote: post #127
9g3890fj2 wrote: post #10

.XYZ domains were already too difficult to use for anything other than a regular site since they have such a bad reputation (however warranted it may be) as being used for spam. Not sure what the point is in paying even more for a TLD that's discriminated against by default.

.xyz is one of the most popular TLDs for crypto and web3, but it has a horrible email spam reputation and some gateways blacklist the entire TLD. With the exception of a16z, VCs aren't funding these businesses much anymore, either. https://techcrunch.com/2021/12/28/wtf-is-xyz/ The biggest user might be block.xyz. .io, .co, and .ai are still the most popular alternative TLDs for startups.

> .io, .co, and .ai are still the most popular alternative TLDs for startups.

is there a good link for this ranking? i'm curious as to 4th place and below too. what position does .app or .tech or .cloud come, etc.

Re: Upcoming .com and .xyz domain price increase

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Post by thayne »

CameronNemo wrote: post #2

How is this anything but rent seeking on the part of Verisign? Edit: not surprised how this got regulatory approval... https://www.politico.com/news/2022/04/09/website-domain-more...

If the other TLDs are actually providing competition, and TLDs are fungible, wouldn't that drive the price down, not up?

Re: Upcoming .com and .xyz domain price increase

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Post by listenallyall »

agwa wrote: post #161

Namecheap's current .com renewal price of $14.58 is broken down as: $0.18 ICANN fee $8.97 Verisign's current registry fee $5.43 Namecheap's markup Namecheap's new .com renewal price of $15.88 will be broken down as: $0.18 ICANN fee (no change) $9.59 Verisign's new registry fee (7% increase) $6.11 Namecheap's new markup (13% increase) So the price increase is not entirely "out of [Namecheap's] control". They are also…

.com is the most desirable TLD by far and also one of the least expensive.

.io, .me, .shop, .info, .site are all more, often significantly more.

Like everyone else I would love less expensive .com prices but honestly Verisign could 10x the cost of .com and only lose a mild percentage of registrations.

Re: Upcoming .com and .xyz domain price increase

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Post by stOneskull »

swozey wrote: post #111
jimmySixDOF wrote: post #36

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I have a .live domain I am afraid to advertise for the same reason. But nowadays .xyz has become popular with anyone involved with 3D and it was good value. I swapped everything to Cloudflare as Registrar following advice on HN and their policy not to raise the rates but not much you can do about this kind of thing.

I use .dev now. It's not much better tbh. I usually have to spell .dev "like developer," but I think people get it a lot more quickly than they did xyz. It's been awhile since I've had to say it to anyone though.

be a .guru

Re: Upcoming .com and .xyz domain price increase

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Post by Spivak »

paulmd wrote: post #162
uxp8u61q wrote: post #145

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Then you send them to the new website. It's about as much a bother as changing postal addresses.

mmhmm, and what happens to their email at the old address?

You tell people to use the new email. I don't understand this, if you make a thing the root of your identity then you have get everyone to migrate when it changes. There is no solution to this problem that doesn't involve implementing USPS mail forwarding for email.

Re: Upcoming .com and .xyz domain price increase

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Post by ntac »

hysan wrote: post #42

How do other registrars compare with Namecheap? I've been using them for a long time and haven't had any problems with their services, so I stopped keeping track of how the industry has evolved.

I can't say how they compare, but I've had no complaints with Domain Monger in 20+ years.

Re: Upcoming .com and .xyz domain price increase

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Post by Spivak »

Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #115
throitallaway wrote: post #95

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If you have customers familiar with your domain, annual domain renewal is an extremely negligible cost to your business.

Unless the price suddenly increases, say, 20000x.

Then you bite the bullet send out an email to your customers that you're moving domains and why, rip the band-aid off and move on with your life.
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