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Re: Upcoming .com and .xyz domain price increase

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Post by CameronNemo »

robomartin wrote: post #97
CameronNemo wrote: post #2

How is this anything but rent seeking on the part of Verisign? Edit: not surprised how this got regulatory approval... https://www.politico.com/news/2022/04/09/website-domain-more...

> How is this anything but rent seeking on the part of Verisign? While I generally agree with you --this smells like potential rent-seeking--, in order to be able to conclusively label it as such we have to know about the real cost structure that drives a company like Verisign. All of that information is here: https://investor.verisign.com/financial-information/annual-r... I wish I had the time to dive into this. I j…

I think the onus is on Verisign to justify their price increases, not the consumer if the monopoly.

So far I've seen them hand waive about inflation and "demand for domains".

As of 2022, their operating margin was about 65%... That doesn't indicate a company that needs to increase prices.

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Post by CameronNemo »

Ms-J wrote: post #114
kwanbix wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are mixing domain registration with shared hosting. Did you ever have a problem with domain registration?

I've had a problem with domain registration when I purchased a .com and they asked for all kinds of business licenses and asking what the purpose of the domain is. Obviously I was shocked as they have no right to ask for the purpose of the domain and I explained that this was not for a business but for a privately administered website. My registration was being denied again after back and forth with support, without…

Did you accidentally register as a business instead of an individual?

I can't imagine why that happened, but I can say that my registrations have never been flagged and have always been straightforward.

Re: Upcoming .com and .xyz domain price increase

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Post by TimCTRL »

durpleDrank wrote: post #57

I wanted to share my experience with Namecheap over the years. I made the switch from GoDaddy to Namecheap back in the day when they launched a notable campaign against elephant poaching around 2009. At that time, Namecheap seemed like a solid choice, even if it meant paying around $100 annually. However, times have changed, and my opinion has shifted. Lately, I've noticed that shared hosting with Namecheap has lost…

> If any of you have recommendations for a hosting service that strikes that balance between quality and affordability, I'd love to hear about it.

CloudFlare

Re: Upcoming .com and .xyz domain price increase

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Post by mikea1 »

lxe wrote: post #33
petecooper wrote: post #22

Porkbun pricing: .com (9.73USD): https://porkbun.com/tld/com .xyz (9.92USD): https://porkbun.com/tld/xyz

Wow. What is porkbun and how is it so much cheaper? Is this worth transferring over?

> how is it so much cheaper

Porkbun doesn't make money when you buy a domain name, but they may make money when you do not renew it:

> At about 21 days into the Auto-Renew Grace Period, the expired domain will be submitted to third-party auction services.

https://kb.porkbun.com/article/37-what-happens-after-a-domai...

Other registrars, like GoDaddy, do this too.

Re: Upcoming .com and .xyz domain price increase

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Post by schemescape »

donmcronald wrote: post #165
schemescape wrote: post #159

Is there a TLD that has a reasonable chance to stay low cost? I just want a domain for hobby projects and I don’t really care which TLD as long as it’s short, but I don’t like having to guess which TLDs are trying to lure people with low prices, only to suddenly raise prices in the future (I’ve seen this happen a few times). I’d also like to use a TLD that is unlikely to be bought by private equity (I vaguely recall…

I would say .com, .net, and .ca if you happen to live in Canada. > I’d also like to use a TLD that is unlikely to be bought by private equity (I vaguely recall this being attempted with a popular TLD). That was Ethos Capital and .org IIRC. They’ve managed to acquire two major registry operators [1]. A huge number of the new gTLDs are under that umbrella. The new gTLDs are a great idea, but (IMO) the poor management a…

Thanks! Why .net? It seems to be owned by Verisign but isn’t as critical as .com, so probably more likely to be exploited.

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Post by midasuni »

ivanhoe wrote: post #134
throitallaway wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you have customers familiar with your domain, annual domain renewal is an extremely negligible cost to your business.

If you run a successful restaurant paying for "protection" to mobsters is a negligible cost to keep your business running (and your kneecaps not broken), but that doesn't make the racketeering acceptable...

If you run a successful restaurant and the landlord hikes your rent you can hardly move town.

Yes it’s rent seeking. It’s also the way capitalism works.

Re: Upcoming .com and .xyz domain price increase

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Post by midasuni »

dismalpedigree wrote: post #5
CameronNemo wrote: post #2

How is this anything but rent seeking on the part of Verisign? Edit: not surprised how this got regulatory approval... https://www.politico.com/news/2022/04/09/website-domain-more...

Also rent seeking by namecheap. But agreed. It’s parasitic.

Can you not simply move your registration to another provider (Amazon etc)

Re: Upcoming .com and .xyz domain price increase

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Post by stOneskull »

schemescape wrote: post #159

Is there a TLD that has a reasonable chance to stay low cost? I just want a domain for hobby projects and I don’t really care which TLD as long as it’s short, but I don’t like having to guess which TLDs are trying to lure people with low prices, only to suddenly raise prices in the future (I’ve seen this happen a few times). I’d also like to use a TLD that is unlikely to be bought by private equity (I vaguely recall…

> .tk allows free registration, so that seems promising, but I doubt it will last

.tk has been free for years and years. i think it's lasted ok. it won't be good for search engine results though, and probably isn't good to use for email. it's good if you have no money.. like those free1000.hostingforyou.net hosts. you can put together a warez site from the street!

Re: Upcoming .com and .xyz domain price increase

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Post by eclipticplane »

monetus wrote: post #60
CameronNemo wrote: post #2

How is this anything but rent seeking on the part of Verisign? Edit: not surprised how this got regulatory approval... https://www.politico.com/news/2022/04/09/website-domain-more...

“I think calling them a monopoly at this point is an unfair comparison. Verisign is no more a monopoly than your Ford dealer is a monopoly,” Redl said. “It’s not the original days of the internet where that was the only top-level domain.” It is bothers me that the monopoly is excused this way.

When you have a monopoly, you spend all of your time explaining why you don't have a monopoly. When you don't have a monopoly, you spend all your time building toward a monopoly.

Re: Upcoming .com and .xyz domain price increase

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Post by tedivm »

MuffinFlavored wrote: post #59
ksec wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Also rent seeking by namecheap What has it got to do with namecheap when they dont own the registry of .COM or .XYZ?

I'm not saying they are doing anything right or wrong but they are probably a profitable company who could have theoretically spared to absorb some (or all) of it without passing it through to their customers Instead, they are passing it on 100%.

Verisign is adding $0.62, while Namecheap is increasing their cut by $0.68.

They're passing it through by 209%, not 100%.

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