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Why bumblebees love cats and other beautiful relationships (2021)

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Re: Why bumblebees love cats and other beautiful relationships (2021)

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Where do you live that rats are bigger than rabbits?

I'm sort of laughing at the concept that we feel it strange that cats don't want to kill rats because of the size of the rats rather than the conversation leaning towards what are we doing that have caused rats to become so large.

In middle eastern cities I rarely see rats. But I see a lot of free roaming cats.

In western cities I see rats but no cats.

I suppose we’ve made our choice.

Re: Why bumblebees love cats and other beautiful relationships (2021)

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I wouldn't say my cats are smart but you can definitely see they are natural born killers. Everything they set their eyes on dies. Flies, spiders, you name it. Nothing is too quick for them. I keep my cats indoors (we take them in to the garden from time to time under supervision) for a variety of reasons one of them being fluffy cute little murders who kill birds and such just for sport... There are also birds which…

> I wouldn't say my cats are smart but you can definitely see they are natural born killers. Everything they set their eyes on dies. Flies, spiders, you name it. Nothing is too quick for them. Most cats I've known don't kill much. They might pounce on a lizard or fly to catch it and play with it, but I can't remember the last time I've seen them actually kill something. Certainly never gotten the fabled "gift" of a d…

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Re: Why bumblebees love cats and other beautiful relationships (2021)

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Are modern cats even that good at killing rats anymore? Haven't we mostly bred cats that have very rarely even seen a rat their entire life?

I know you specifically asked about rats but domestic cats are killing machines. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23360987/ We estimate that free-ranging domestic cats kill 1.4-3.7 billion birds and 6.9-20.7 billion mammals annually.

They don't make 'em like they used to.

Re: Why bumblebees love cats and other beautiful relationships (2021)

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Are modern cats even that good at killing rats anymore? Haven't we mostly bred cats that have very rarely even seen a rat their entire life?

I wouldn't say my cats are smart but you can definitely see they are natural born killers. Everything they set their eyes on dies. Flies, spiders, you name it. Nothing is too quick for them. I keep my cats indoors (we take them in to the garden from time to time under supervision) for a variety of reasons one of them being fluffy cute little murders who kill birds and such just for sport... There are also birds which…

> Nothing is too quick for them.

Cats even have a faster average reaction time than snakes.

Re: Why bumblebees love cats and other beautiful relationships (2021)

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Are modern cats even that good at killing rats anymore? Haven't we mostly bred cats that have very rarely even seen a rat their entire life?

I know you specifically asked about rats but domestic cats are killing machines. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23360987/ We estimate that free-ranging domestic cats kill 1.4-3.7 billion birds and 6.9-20.7 billion mammals annually.

Yeah, there's a HUGE difference in behavior between a house cat that gets all of its meals every day at home, and one that has to go out hunting for at least some of its food. The laziness of an indoor cat is a learned behavior.

Re: Why bumblebees love cats and other beautiful relationships (2021)

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Are modern cats even that good at killing rats anymore? Haven't we mostly bred cats that have very rarely even seen a rat their entire life?

I’ve come home to a rat body missing its head and even letting my indoor cats into the backyard might yield a dead bird or lizard on the kitchen floor.

kitchen floor? you are lucky. Some cats will offer you the dead birds on your bed.

Re: Why bumblebees love cats and other beautiful relationships (2021)

#27
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Bumblebees don't love cats, they hate mices.

Even that is a bit simplistic since bumblebees like to nest in old rodent burrows.

Reminds me of the neighbors across the street who were too lazy to get rid of an old half-barrel planter on their porch that was full of dirt and nothing else. It had hundreds of holes in the soil. Bumblebee nests. Every day, they'd take the chance of getting bopped by one of them as they entered or exited their home.

Re: Why bumblebees love cats and other beautiful relationships (2021)

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post #6

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I wouldn't say my cats are smart but you can definitely see they are natural born killers. Everything they set their eyes on dies. Flies, spiders, you name it. Nothing is too quick for them. I keep my cats indoors (we take them in to the garden from time to time under supervision) for a variety of reasons one of them being fluffy cute little murders who kill birds and such just for sport... There are also birds which…

> I wouldn't say my cats are smart but you can definitely see they are natural born killers. Everything they set their eyes on dies. Flies, spiders, you name it. Nothing is too quick for them. Most cats I've known don't kill much. They might pounce on a lizard or fly to catch it and play with it, but I can't remember the last time I've seen them actually kill something. Certainly never gotten the fabled "gift" of a d…

We have two cats and it differs from cat to cat, and with age.

When they were young our female would hunt quite a bit, certainly several times a month. Our male was hopeless at it, occasionally bringing back a live mouse and then not knowing what to do with it.

Now they have got older we have not had so much as a single mouse in a couple of years. I'm fairly sure I've seen more spiders as well.

Re: Why bumblebees love cats and other beautiful relationships (2021)

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My cat is good at killing birds, chipmunks, bunnies, and mice. I doubt she could deal with a rat - probably too big.

Put a bell on your cat! Outdoor cats are responsible for a huge amount of ecological devastation, the least you can do, if you insist on your predator roaming freely outdoors, is put a bell on it to try and give local species a warning.

Do not put a bell on your cat, like ever. It is harmful to your cat's health.

Re: Why bumblebees love cats and other beautiful relationships (2021)

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Even that is a bit simplistic since bumblebees like to nest in old rodent burrows.

Reminds me of the neighbors across the street who were too lazy to get rid of an old half-barrel planter on their porch that was full of dirt and nothing else. It had hundreds of holes in the soil. Bumblebee nests. Every day, they'd take the chance of getting bopped by one of them as they entered or exited their home.

And how often did that then actually happen? Maybe they left it there intentionally?
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