Windows 11 has made the “clean Windows install” an oxymoron
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Windows 11 has made the “clean Windows install” an oxymoron
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Re: Windows 11 has made the “clean Windows install” an oxymoron
#2In my eyes Microsoft Edge is even more annoying. Even if you install the "business" version you still get that shitty startpage and if you log in to remote desktop that takes ages to render and then you have to a bit of time turn that "start page thing" off. And MS moves the options around all the time! Such a pain! You can't just set about:blank as an empty tab page any more.
Re: Windows 11 has made the “clean Windows install” an oxymoron
#3Has anyone become so disillusioned with windows that they just have a windows pc sitting around collecting dust?
Sometimes I still need to use some legacy program or whatever on there but I feel like the last time I booted into that thing was over a month ago now.
Re: Windows 11 has made the “clean Windows install” an oxymoron
#4In my eyes Microsoft Edge is even more annoying. Even if you install the "business" version you still get that shitty startpage and if you log in to remote desktop that takes ages to render and then you have to a bit of time turn that "start page thing" off. And MS moves the options around all the time! Such a pain! You can't just set about:blank as an empty tab page any more.
Telemetry shows moving the option around results in higher use of the start page thing. Every time it moves less people can find it and the uptake of the new feature improves.
Re: Windows 11 has made the “clean Windows install” an oxymoron
#5Phew. After being a Windows user for literally almost two decades I've happily migrated to Linux and couldn't be happier. Yep, it took some time to prepare but let's be frank, developers already use quite a lot of Linux/Unix tools already so why not cut the middleman and just work directly with what we need most?
Re: Windows 11 has made the “clean Windows install” an oxymoron
#6The modern iteration of the Start menu is a particular travesty and has been rendered all but unusable in order to push you to Bing by accident.
Microsoft simply must believe that Windows can survive the users hating this crap, and I fear they are right. For myself 11 was bad enough to finally try out Steam on Debian and was pleasantly surprised. KDE is closer to being the Windows desktop I want than Windows 11 is, which is just insane.
Minor point for the article, OOBE is a very widespread term in the consumer technology industry, not MS specific.
Re: Windows 11 has made the “clean Windows install” an oxymoron
#7"A clean installation is one that is done in the absence of any interfering elements such as old versions of the computer program being installed or leftovers from a previous installation. In particular, the clean installation of an operating system is an installation in which the target disk partition is erased before installation. Since the interfering elements are absent, a clean installation may succeed where an unclean installation may fail or may take significantly longer."
Re: Windows 11 has made the “clean Windows install” an oxymoron
#8I keep seeing headlines about Microsoft adding adverts to Windows and whatnot but none of it ever appears infront of me. Is that because I'm on Windows Pro?
Re: Windows 11 has made the “clean Windows install” an oxymoron
#9Has anyone become so disillusioned with windows that they just have a windows pc sitting around collecting dust? Sometimes I still need to use some legacy program or whatever on there but I feel like the last time I booted into that thing was over a month ago now.
I started my machine for the first time in a couple of months yesterday; I mostly use it for gaming.
The taskbar “Search” box had a new “fun” little icon representing whatever search item they wanted to advertise to me today. Had to find windows “tips” site to work out how to turn it off…
Not as egregious as “full screen game adverts on login screen by default” though.
Re: Windows 11 has made the “clean Windows install” an oxymoron
#10Has anyone become so disillusioned with windows that they just have a windows pc sitting around collecting dust? Sometimes I still need to use some legacy program or whatever on there but I feel like the last time I booted into that thing was over a month ago now.
I've found wine good enough to run nearly any windows programme I want to use; the only exception is VR games, but I've found myself just not playing VR as a result