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> Shut-in stays indoors to avoid the Edinburgh Festival crowds under the pretext of fearing covid. August 2023 mind you. Avoiding crowds is one of the best ways to avoid COVID-19. I don't understand what you're getting at. > Craves human contact and camaraderie, sends out cry for help by vaguely connecting random pop culture tropes to white supremacy -- as is now tradition -- to attract others of his ilk to his comme…

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> Shut-in stays indoors to avoid the Edinburgh Festival crowds under the pretext of fearing covid. August 2023 mind you. Avoiding crowds is one of the best ways to avoid COVID-19. I don't understand what you're getting at. > Craves human contact and camaraderie, sends out cry for help by vaguely connecting random pop culture tropes to white supremacy -- as is now tradition -- to attract others of his ilk to his comme…

You do know COVID is never going away don't you?

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> Zombies, for example, show us something really ugly about embedded white supremacist terror of a slave revolt I dunno about that. Years ago, I was (very stupidly) wandering alone in a very bad part of town, and the only other people on the street were the homeless drug addicts, scattered here and there and shuffling about slowly, only dangerous if you let them get within biting range, and I thought, "is this where…

Night of the Living Dead is inspired by the 1954 novel I Am Legend, which is based on vampire mythology. And although it's probably not a direct inspiration, it also reminds me of the chapter in the 1908 novel The House on the Borderland where the swine-things attack the house.

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> Zombies, for example, show us something really ugly about embedded white supremacist terror of a slave revolt I dunno about that. Years ago, I was (very stupidly) wandering alone in a very bad part of town, and the only other people on the street were the homeless drug addicts, scattered here and there and shuffling about slowly, only dangerous if you let them get within biting range, and I thought, "is this where…

> when drug addiction epidemics entered the popular consciousness

That certainly isn't correct.

The fear of marijuana addiction epidemics was part of the popular consciousness in the 1930s, pushed in part by Hearst's yellow journalism and Anslinger's propagandizing. We see echos of that fear in the movie "Reefer Madness."

The same for heroin.

There's even earlier moralizing against opium and opium dens, connected with "yellow peril" xenophobia as ensnaring white people into addiction.

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> Shut-in stays indoors to avoid the Edinburgh Festival crowds under the pretext of fearing covid. August 2023 mind you. Avoiding crowds is one of the best ways to avoid COVID-19. I don't understand what you're getting at. > Craves human contact and camaraderie, sends out cry for help by vaguely connecting random pop culture tropes to white supremacy -- as is now tradition -- to attract others of his ilk to his comme…

You do know COVID is never going away don't you?

Sounds like a great reason to continue being careful!

Maybe one day they'll have a cure for post viral syndrome, until then I'll avoid crowds... like the plague.

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> Shut-in stays indoors to avoid the Edinburgh Festival crowds under the pretext of fearing covid. August 2023 mind you. Avoiding crowds is one of the best ways to avoid COVID-19. I don't understand what you're getting at. > Craves human contact and camaraderie, sends out cry for help by vaguely connecting random pop culture tropes to white supremacy -- as is now tradition -- to attract others of his ilk to his comme…

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> Avoiding crowds is of course also one of the best ways to avoid offline social interaction.

Specifically, he's talking about avoiding the crowds in Edinburgh during the festival. Either you've seen this, and you know what he means or ...

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> Avoiding crowds is of course also one of the best ways to avoid offline social interaction. Specifically, he's talking about avoiding the crowds in Edinburgh during the festival. Either you've seen this, and you know what he means or ...

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If you're intent on imagining a subtext to Night of the Living Dead a movie which never mentions zombies and features the (undead) neighbours harrass a black man who is ultimately shot dead by a sheriff’s deputy then you might also want to recall it was conceived in the aftermath of the Detroit and Newark riots and released to audiences who had just seen National Guardsmen shoot antiwar protesters to death at Kent St…

According to Romero, Duane Jones got the lead role because he gave the best audition, not because the role was written for a black man.

The thing about tropes in movies and literature is that they are often identified and become part of the legend of a work without the intent of the autor.

Whether intended by Romero or not, according to the documentary A Century of Black Cinema (and other related print works) the film had a profound impact on many African American viewers of the time .. because of the lead, because of the story, etc.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1381270/

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> Shut-in stays indoors to avoid the Edinburgh Festival crowds under the pretext of fearing covid. August 2023 mind you. Avoiding crowds is one of the best ways to avoid COVID-19. I don't understand what you're getting at. > Craves human contact and camaraderie, sends out cry for help by vaguely connecting random pop culture tropes to white supremacy -- as is now tradition -- to attract others of his ilk to his comme…

You do know COVID is never going away don't you?

Probably true, but at the same time: has it got less dangerous and the risk of side effects decreased? Even if it becomes "more dangerous seasonal flu", that's still a consideration for someone of cstross's age and health.

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If you're intent on imagining a subtext to Night of the Living Dead a movie which never mentions zombies and features the (undead) neighbours harrass a black man who is ultimately shot dead by a sheriff’s deputy then you might also want to recall it was conceived in the aftermath of the Detroit and Newark riots and released to audiences who had just seen National Guardsmen shoot antiwar protesters to death at Kent St…

According to Romero, Duane Jones got the lead role because he gave the best audition, not because the role was written for a black man.

Whether it was the original plan or not, by the time the movie gets to the end credits the parallels to a lynching are incredibly explicit.

I'd like to put in a rec for https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053454/ "The World, the Flesh and the Devil", which is an apocalypse movie with a slightly different premise: what if the only survivors of an apocalypse in apartheit 1950s America were a black man and a white woman? Contains some great shots of deserted New York and some very intense performances.

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