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My Public Apology

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Re: My Public Apology

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Also, it seems you can't downvote replies to your own posts, or downvote anything older than a day or so.

That, I imagine is to prevent revenge down-voting. It seems like a good idea to me.

Yep. It also occasionally locks out posts by a user in the same thread as the one in which they reply to you. Same anti-revenge idea, as far as I can see.

Re: My Public Apology

#82
post #45

Humor is often a healthy (if misunderstood) response to something bad happening. While I'm not defending the remark at all, there's always going to be a crowd that reacts to any joke made in such a context with an automatic irrational "You think $unfortunate_incident is FUNNY!?!"

Is irrational actually the word you're looking for?

I suppose it's irrational because it's so easy to misinterpret, and because it's not always necessary. It's overused in a lot of ways.

Re: My Public Apology

#83
post #3

You are doing this because you don't want it to impact your business. Shame on you!!

He has every right to be concerned about his business. It's success impacts not only him, but any co-founders, investors, customers, and family he may have. It's clear from the nature of his apology that what he repents of, is not so much the point he was attempting to make, but the callousness of how he made it and how that overshadowed even what good he had hoped to achieve. This was a mistake, and he has every right to be concerned how this impacts his business and reputation.

Re: My Public Apology

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post #62

My only problem with your initial comment is that it does not add much to the discussion; but neither do the comments that merely express sympathy. The story itself is only of interest because any startup may have to deal with similar situations, and hysterical public attention in general. The real issue is how your unpopular comment immediately reflected back on your business. There are several calls to boycott tick…

I find it interesting that a couple of people expressing distaste for tdavis' statements and expressing the thought that they personally would not spend money on ticketstumbler because of his demonstrated lack of judgment gets turned into a witch hunt and call for boycott. As a side note, I have to wonder about companies that I've only ever heard of through reading HN. It makes me think that the founders are spending…

There are an incredible number of sites. Chances are, there are enormous ones you've never heard of because they deal with things you're not interested in. I've never heard Justin.tv mentioned anywhere beyond here and Reddit (I don't read tech blogs, as a disclaimer): until a month ago, I thought that Justin.tv was still just the one guy.

HN is great because it has such a concentration of people who know what they're talking about. It means that you can advertise just here, and rely on word-of-mouth to spread the biggest ideas.

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#85

Give me a break...an apology is wholly unnecessary. What you said may have been "inappropriate," but it was dark humor. Of course people would be offended.

I think it's useful. It gave us a forum to discuss how Hacker News acts in regards to things like that, and that's a very important discussion to have.

Re: My Public Apology

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post #40

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Perhaps I should have been more clear: The downvoting of the joke was expected. The massive upvoting of the snarky "oh, snap" comments that followed, is what was surprising. You are supposed to upvote intelligent discourse, and downvote the cruft; ie. encourage the "community and the discussion that goes on here", and discourage the "anonymous trolls that don't think before they comment". Or at least that's how I lea…

"Just apologize for the comment, man. You're not going to change anyone's mind with a childish rant like this." +20 This turned out to be very insightful.

Prophetic != insightful.

"Just ignore them... all this sanctimonious self-righteousness will blow away with the wind if you ignore it." would have been insightful.

Re: My Public Apology

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thats harsh

Life is. Adapt.

But it isn't. It's worse than that: it's fair. People judge you based on how they perceive you, and that's an open standard, and it's completely fair.

That makes it harder, because it's harder to admit that's how it works when things are down for you.

Re: My Public Apology

#88

Well done, the 100+ upvotes you've got on this post have totally counteracted the negative votes you got on the other post, and you end the day with a net profit. Goes to show.. when it comes to social networking, any publicity is good publicity!

I think there's more to his apology than that.

Re: My Public Apology

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The question is. Do I upvote that and look like a dick for apparently celebrating this fact. Or downvote it, look good, but add to the negative karma! Abstain :(

Well, the thing is, no one knows what way you voted, so you could have your cake and eat it too.

rumbled! :)

Re: My Public Apology

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post #85

Give me a break...an apology is wholly unnecessary. What you said may have been "inappropriate," but it was dark humor. Of course people would be offended.

I think it's useful. It gave us a forum to discuss how Hacker News acts in regards to things like that, and that's a very important discussion to have.

If your dark humor doesn't offend people, you're doing it wrong. But you're right, this may show that HN overreacts.
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