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To be perfectly fair with you, it's less dangerous than driving. https://www.summitpost.org/mountaineering-accident-statistic...

Raw numbers don't mean much unless you normalize to the number of participants in some way and, really, to the level of the activity. Not a lot of people are killed flying in wing suits but that's not because it's such a safe activity. To be clear, I think mountaineering is a perfectly rational activity for people to pursue so long as they're going into it with their eyes wide open. I've certainly done activities in…

FWIW the article I linked says exactly the same thing as you.

It's essentially impossible to properly normalise across hours of doing the activity.

Those stats, are at best, an estimate but it's exceptionally favourable to mountaineering.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be perfectly fair with you, it's less dangerous than driving. https://www.summitpost.org/mountaineering-accident-statistic...

Raw numbers don't mean much unless you normalize to the number of participants in some way and, really, to the level of the activity. Not a lot of people are killed flying in wing suits but that's not because it's such a safe activity. To be clear, I think mountaineering is a perfectly rational activity for people to pursue so long as they're going into it with their eyes wide open. I've certainly done activities in…

I'm not criticizing. I'd like to understand what might make climbing a tall rock worth losing my life.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Raw numbers don't mean much unless you normalize to the number of participants in some way and, really, to the level of the activity. Not a lot of people are killed flying in wing suits but that's not because it's such a safe activity. To be clear, I think mountaineering is a perfectly rational activity for people to pursue so long as they're going into it with their eyes wide open. I've certainly done activities in…

FWIW the article I linked says exactly the same thing as you. It's essentially impossible to properly normalise across hours of doing the activity. Those stats, are at best, an estimate but it's exceptionally favourable to mountaineering.

I clicked through the link and looked at what data was available--looked like a lot of broken links. But, depending on your definition of mountaineering, as someone with a fair bit of experience in the area, I simply don't believe that mountaineering at any significant level is safer than driving whatever sort of normalization you settle on. The latest fatality stats for US roads is something like one per 100 million miles.

However, as both you and the link suggest, it's essentially impossible to normalize. I don't know how I'd even draw a hard line between a "walk in the woods" and "mountaineering." But do whatever works for you.

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Raw numbers don't mean much unless you normalize to the number of participants in some way and, really, to the level of the activity. Not a lot of people are killed flying in wing suits but that's not because it's such a safe activity. To be clear, I think mountaineering is a perfectly rational activity for people to pursue so long as they're going into it with their eyes wide open. I've certainly done activities in…

I'm not criticizing. I'd like to understand what might make climbing a tall rock worth losing my life.

There's risk in all manner of things. Some I would personally consider as high risk for relatively low personal reward--or I'm not physically capable of doing them anyway (which alas covers more things than used to be the case).

But people like challenges, experiences, etc. some of which are never going to be wholly risk free. I'm not going to pressure someone to get out of their comfort zone in a way that puts them in potential physical danger but I fully understand people who pressure themselves. I've certainly gotten into some dicey situations now and then. Nothing serious happened--I was generally prepared--but it wouldn't have taken a lot for things to go sideways.

Or maybe you get distracted and forget to look both ways before crossing the street.

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I first came across her words in the book Cloud Native Infrastructure, and she had a way to say things concisely, things I had always wanted to express, but never had the words. I was an instant fan. I ran into once at Salesforce Park in SF, and told her about how I followed her and loved her works. It so happened she was talking to a VP at the time, explaining the importance of social media in tech, to that worked perfectly for her. I'll never forget her, and cherish her forever.

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Kris was more than just a prominent figure in our industry; she was a beacon of inspiration in open-source. Her passion wasn't just about writing code, but about bringing people together, breaking barriers, and making technology accessible to all. Kris's vibrant personality and dedication to collaboration will be deeply missed, but her impact on the world of open-source won't be forgotten. She has left a personal imprint on many of us, and her spirit will continue to inspire those who believe in the power of community-driven innovation. I will miss her so much. She was truly one of a kind.
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