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Re: Best Ultrabook for Linux?

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Post by tel »

glesica wrote: post #75
HackR wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You realize Macbook touchpads are buttons right? They have left click and right click with button action. It's just as intuitive as having 2 separate buttons, and even more so because of how customizable it is.

Not quite the same. For example, what happens when you run out of room on a drag-and-drop operation? You're holding down the whole track pad so you have two options: add a second hand to hold the button, which can make the cursor do weird things, or start over giving yourself more room. With a hardware button this isn't an issue. That said, the Apple track pads are incredibly high-quality and I generally like them. I…

I lay my thumb on the bottom of the trackpad and hold it down, then my pointer is free to drag, lift away, reposition, and drag more. It's extremely convenient and certainly one-handed.

The trackpads are also multitouch, so they handle multiple hands as sensibly as you might expect.

Re: Best Ultrabook for Linux?

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Post by gcb »

HackR wrote: post #70
buster wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nott sure what you mean, could it be that you are just too accustomed to the apple touchpad? I can scroll and move the pointer just fine on mine.

You wouldn't know until you've used the touchpad on an Macbook. Give it a try for 1 week. Guarantee you won't be able to go back.

Had to use one for months, went running to the better sensitiveness of my eeepc from Asus (model 1000, when they had quality parts) and the think pads clitmouse (i use touchpad there only for scrolling, all the area is a scroll wheel)

i think you are mostly comparing apple drivers to windows drivers.

The question is clearly about Linux. Where there's no such thing as bad scrolling implementation

Re: Best Ultrabook for Linux?

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Post by victorbstan »

glesica wrote: post #75
HackR wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You realize Macbook touchpads are buttons right? They have left click and right click with button action. It's just as intuitive as having 2 separate buttons, and even more so because of how customizable it is.

Not quite the same. For example, what happens when you run out of room on a drag-and-drop operation? You're holding down the whole track pad so you have two options: add a second hand to hold the button, which can make the cursor do weird things, or start over giving yourself more room. With a hardware button this isn't an issue. That said, the Apple track pads are incredibly high-quality and I generally like them. I…

Or you can just lift you finger, move it up where there's more space, and start dragging again, it's not complicated, actually it is very easy and fast.

Re: Best Ultrabook for Linux?

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Post by gcb »

bergie wrote: post #4

MacBook Air (I have an early 2011 11" with Ubuntu and GNOME3) works pretty well, though sometimes I have issues connecting to WiFi access points that work fine on my other Linux devices. Some notes about the setup: http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/11-macbook_air-the_best_computer_i...

He mention price. Didn't he?

No matter how much you downvote me, it still will cost 3x more than another model for the informed consumer. I know because all notebooks i have costs at least 1/3 of the apple equivalent.

Re: Best Ultrabook for Linux?

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Post by mitjak »

glesica wrote: post #75
HackR wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You realize Macbook touchpads are buttons right? They have left click and right click with button action. It's just as intuitive as having 2 separate buttons, and even more so because of how customizable it is.

Not quite the same. For example, what happens when you run out of room on a drag-and-drop operation? You're holding down the whole track pad so you have two options: add a second hand to hold the button, which can make the cursor do weird things, or start over giving yourself more room. With a hardware button this isn't an issue. That said, the Apple track pads are incredibly high-quality and I generally like them. I…

I don't know how others prefer to drag, but I have the three-finger gesture enabled: holding down the fingers counts as a dragging motion, and if you release the fingers, it gives you about a second to lift the fingers, move them elsewhere, and continue the dragging motion. This way you can drag infinitely if you so desire, without a hardware button.

Re: Best Ultrabook for Linux?

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Post by gcb »

mise wrote: post #32
kijin wrote: post #18

Beware of touchpads with multi-touch and integrated buttons (a.k.a. "clickpads"). A lot of laptops nowadays seem to have these MacBook-esque touchpads, and especially ultrabooks since they're often trying to mimic Apple products. But driver support for PC clickpads in Linux is hit and miss. Often you'll find it very frustrating to perform right clicks and drag-and-drop operations. Cutting-edge distros like Ubuntu 12.…

Yes. I have had to completely disable the trackpad on my Lenovo X220, and I use its 'nipple' mouse button instead.

Its clitmouse. :) and i recommend you enable the touchpad for scrolling. On X you can configure all the area.

Re: Best Ultrabook for Linux?

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Post by masklinn »

gcb wrote: post #84
bergie wrote: post #4

MacBook Air (I have an early 2011 11" with Ubuntu and GNOME3) works pretty well, though sometimes I have issues connecting to WiFi access points that work fine on my other Linux devices. Some notes about the setup: http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/11-macbook_air-the_best_computer_i...

He mention price. Didn't he? No matter how much you downvote me, it still will cost 3x more than another model for the informed consumer. I know because all notebooks i have costs at least 1/3 of the apple equivalent.

> He mention price. Didn't he?

He also mentioned ultrabooks. Last time I checked, all ultrabooks are in the Air's price range (give or take 10%, and not necessarily in the Air's disfavour).

> I know because all notebooks i have costs at least 1/3 of the apple equivalent.

It might just be that none of your notebooks are in the same category.

Re: Best Ultrabook for Linux?

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Post by gcb »

traxtech wrote: post #2

The Lenovo ThinkPad X220 is really great, and it's also Ubuntu certified since a long time (10.10) so it should be okay with others distros.

The x and t thinkpads have the same price issue of apple.

Plus the added disadvantage of no physical retailer to see the machine before buying.

Re: Best Ultrabook for Linux?

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Post by gcb »

zdw wrote: post #23
traxtech wrote: post #2

The Lenovo ThinkPad X220 is really great, and it's also Ubuntu certified since a long time (10.10) so it should be okay with others distros.

The X220 is the nicest non-Apple small laptop I've seen in a while. It can also take an mSATA SSD, so you can load it up with a big spinning disk for media storage, and a small boot SSD for the OS/apps/etc.

Every notebook in the planet can. You don't have to a) wait the manufacturer to offer you b) pay the amount they ask

Re: Best Ultrabook for Linux?

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Post by keenerd »

eof wrote: post #19

Not an ultra; but I was looking for something similar, I think to what you were looking for. Small, but still useable, light, fast, good build quality and hopefully cheap. I did a alot of research and watched slickdeals.com regularly for deals and ended up with an Asus 1215b with an E-350 processor. It comes with 2gb of ram, but I put another 4gb stick (22$) to bring it to 6; and replaced the hard drive with an ssd (…

Odd. I have the Thinkpad equivalent (x120e) and I agree on almost all your points except performance. 720p plays fine in linux, 1080p plays fine too but only with vaapi acceleration. Have never booted windows on it, so I can't compare there.

Gaming wise, it can handle Xonotic at native resolution (1366x768) with most of the effects cranked up at 30 fps.

Did I mention changing the hard drive does not void the warranty?

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