Live data from Hacker News

The Stick of Jan Sloot (2004)

spronck.net

1–10 of 55 posts

Re: The Stick of Jan Sloot (2004)

#3
Fascinating story though, possible or not. And there were some demos for investors, including iirc Sony Entertainment, which would have been hard to fake completely. So at worst, this guy was a decent magician..

There is a book on it with lots of details..

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3316995-de-broncode

Re: The Stick of Jan Sloot (2004)

#4
post #3

Fascinating story though, possible or not. And there were some demos for investors, including iirc Sony Entertainment, which would have been hard to fake completely. So at worst, this guy was a decent magician.. There is a book on it with lots of details.. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3316995-de-broncode

It doesn't take much magic to convince certain pointy haired bosses.

Re: The Stick of Jan Sloot (2004)

#5
I have met him in person a lot of times: I worked at a local electronics shop and we used to bring him TVs and radios for repair regularly. He was socially awkward, stubborn, and on more then one occasion he made mistakes with regards to the repairs but did not want to admit fault at any time.

From my (rather limited) interactions with him, I'd say he was far from genius, I feel he just got sucked in and had no way out of his network of lies without losing face.

Re: The Stick of Jan Sloot (2004)

#6
post #4
post #3

Fascinating story though, possible or not. And there were some demos for investors, including iirc Sony Entertainment, which would have been hard to fake completely. So at worst, this guy was a decent magician.. There is a book on it with lots of details.. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3316995-de-broncode

It doesn't take much magic to convince certain pointy haired bosses.

Very true... But from what I remember, he demoed for a bunch of research teams as well, which would require a bit more sleight of hand than fooling the average venture capitalist gambling other people's money.

In any case, it's one of those crazy stories.

Re: The Stick of Jan Sloot (2004)

#7
post #5

I have met him in person a lot of times: I worked at a local electronics shop and we used to bring him TVs and radios for repair regularly. He was socially awkward, stubborn, and on more then one occasion he made mistakes with regards to the repairs but did not want to admit fault at any time. From my (rather limited) interactions with him, I'd say he was far from genius, I feel he just got sucked in and had no way o…

Almost everybody was skeptical at the time. It was too good to be true.

Re: The Stick of Jan Sloot (2004)

#8
> The whole problem of Pieper's way of thinking (and of every other person who believes that Sloot actually could compress movies with a factor of two million) is that he believes that the key does not need to contain every detail of a movie. Unfortunately, it does.

I wonder if one was scammed and bought a Blu-ray with everything, only to find out they got novels rather than movies. After the initial disappointment they might realize well written novels are better than movies and never watch another.

How about we get GPT to turn good movies into great books? Like a large inverse prompt engineering problem.

Could we then even feed that text as input to make a better, though arbitrarily different movie?

Re: The Stick of Jan Sloot (2004)

#9
"The Sloot Digital Coding System was an alleged data sharing technique that its inventor claimed could store a complete digital movie file in 8 kilobytes of data — violating Shannon's source coding theorem by many orders of magnitude. The alleged technique was developed in 1995 by Romke Jan Bernhard Sloot (27 August 1945, Groningen – 11 July 1999,[1] Nieuwegein), a Dutch electronics engineer.[2] In 1999, just days before the conclusion of a contract to sell his invention, Sloot died suddenly of a heart attack. The source code was never recovered, and the technique and claim have never been reproduced or verified. "

From wikipedia

Re: The Stick of Jan Sloot (2004)

#10

> The whole problem of Pieper's way of thinking (and of every other person who believes that Sloot actually could compress movies with a factor of two million) is that he believes that the key does not need to contain every detail of a movie. Unfortunately, it does. I wonder if one was scammed and bought a Blu-ray with everything, only to find out they got novels rather than movies. After the initial disappointment t…

> How about we get GPT to turn good movies into great books? Like a large inverse prompt engineering problem.

GPT has trouble making great sentences, much less great books from a data type completely different from its training. GPT, at the core, is a "likely next word" generator. No great literature came as a process of "likely next word" in a vacuum. Likely next word from complex experiences of a decade and plot designed from those complex experiences, sure. But not the algorithm that GPT is.

> Could we then even feed that text as input to make a better, though arbitrarily different movie?

Nothing about a feedback loop of mediocrity describes a practical way to improve quality. This concept is as sound as the alien encoding stick and the sloot encoding scheme itself.

Post reply on HN