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China’s defeated youth: Young Chinese have little hope for the future

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Re: China’s defeated youth: Young Chinese have little hope for the future

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The article is looking at China specifically, but this doesn't seem to be a local trend (over-qualified labour with wages below cost of living) by any means.

The standards for ‘living wages’ are much lower in China and they have a very poor social safety net.

So, objectively they are in a far worse situation. The CCP has long quelled dissent by saying yes things suck but look at fas things are improving. As that breaks down they are in for problems.

Re: China’s defeated youth: Young Chinese have little hope for the future

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Re: China’s defeated youth: Young Chinese have little hope for the future

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Re: China’s defeated youth: Young Chinese have little hope for the future

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It’s so interesting to see this play out the same in both China and the US; a generation that can’t afford to buy a home, were told higher education would lead to a secure career and it doesn’t, falling fertility rate accordingly, etc. “Eat bitterness” indeed.

For all of the political huff and puff China and America are two sides of the same coin.

Re: China’s defeated youth: Young Chinese have little hope for the future

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post #11

The article is looking at China specifically, but this doesn't seem to be a local trend (over-qualified labour with wages below cost of living) by any means.

The standards for ‘living wages’ are much lower in China and they have a very poor social safety net. So, objectively they are in a far worse situation. The CCP has long quelled dissent by saying yes things suck but look at fas things are improving. As that breaks down they are in for problems.

Do they have a very poor social safety net?

I’m not disagreeing, but I’ve not seen a single homeless person in China on two separate trips lasting a couple months. I was in big cities and in rural areas. It’s only a personal anecdote but just wondering if your claim is actually objectively true?

Re: China’s defeated youth: Young Chinese have little hope for the future

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It’s so interesting to see this play out the same in both China and the US; a generation that can’t afford to buy a home, were told higher education would lead to a secure career and it doesn’t, falling fertility rate accordingly, etc. “Eat bitterness” indeed.

Wildly different scenarios.

Exactly. It all sounds comparatively samey, like "well hey, people over here feel defeated too, lol" and thus you get whataboutism propagating really easily.

Anyway...I'm probably overreacting...I should probably go focus on figuring out a few sneaky emoji I can use, so that I can write Joe Biden's name in my social media posts without getting blocked or officially identified as a critic...

https://chinadigitaltimes.net/chinese/698968.html?amp

Re: China’s defeated youth: Young Chinese have little hope for the future

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The standards for ‘living wages’ are much lower in China and they have a very poor social safety net. So, objectively they are in a far worse situation. The CCP has long quelled dissent by saying yes things suck but look at fas things are improving. As that breaks down they are in for problems.

Do they have a very poor social safety net? I’m not disagreeing, but I’ve not seen a single homeless person in China on two separate trips lasting a couple months. I was in big cities and in rural areas. It’s only a personal anecdote but just wondering if your claim is actually objectively true?

“In 2015, it was reported that there are more than 3 million people are homeless in China.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_China

Though it’s hard to get accurate figures. “In 2011, there were approximately 2.41 million homeless adults and 179,000 homeless children living in the country.[1] However, one publication estimated that there were one million homeless children in China in 2012.[2][unreliable source]”

China doesn’t want embarrassing figures known and actively hides such things, so it’s very hard to compare them with other countries. However, they have zero problems cracking down on homelessness populations and forcefully relocating them.

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