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Re: StarLite 12.5-inch Linux tablet

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Post by walteweiss »

amiga-workbench wrote: post #210
PrivateButts wrote: post #98

A bit ago I did a bit of an experiment with an old surface tablet, where I threw some linux distros at it to see what the experience was. I tried Ubuntu, Manjaro, and Fedora, and all were extremely janky to downright broken. On screen keyboard was completely broken with Wayland, with some apps like Firefox just not popping it open, to others ignoring input. X had trouble with screen rotation. Fedora wouldn't let me p…

I just bought a ThinkPad X1 Tablet Gen 3. Everything works great, the on screen keyboard is actually functioning properly and appears on demand every time. Screen orientation is handled properly and promptly. The only let-down so far is battery life, but I need to make some adjustments to help there. I'm running the latest version of Fedora workstation, under wayland too. This thing is the only truly repairable table…

What’s the battery life for you? You didn’t specified. Is it bad compared to tablets or compared to that same device with Windows installed? What the bad is exactly, is it 3–4 hours, is it 10 hours?

Re: StarLite 12.5-inch Linux tablet

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Post by mdp2021 »

mdp2021 wrote: post #160
ashald wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which gives you an hour or two of battery life, and effectively no camera support. I have one, running Linux on it, love it and consider best Linux device I ever had had, but I wish there were fewer quirks.

> Which gives you an hour or two of battery life Interesting, but that must be some bad configuration, something that must be fixed on that specific line of tablets. It is not necessary on Linux.

And of course some rogues had to pass leave some judgement and a "guess what triggered my reaction". In this case, the very annoying and utterly avoidable game of guesses is among the easiest: that it was a banality? But not all of this public may have been there...

Edit: to expand more on the implicit of the original post «not necessary on Linux»: that «an hour or two of battery life» is quite extraordinary, and should really require a bit of expansion: what is it that drains that battery? That is not normal at all, and requires some more detail, like "Android 12 tried to marry my cousin" or similar would.

Re: StarLite 12.5-inch Linux tablet

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Post by vGPU »

YoshiRulz wrote: post #180
Osiris wrote: post #69

No one has mentioned the 2880x1920 resolution display. That’s fantastic I’m this price range. $500 laptops are (nearly?) impossible to find with displays above 1080p.

A friend of mine recently (2019 or '20) bought a laptop, new, with a 768p LCD display. It's ridiculous. In 2014 you could get a phone with a 1080p display, and it was 5" so it had a high pixel density too! Why does it feel like consumer electronics are going backwards?

The fact that $1,000+ 15-17in 1080p laptops are still being sold today is just atrocious.

Re: StarLite 12.5-inch Linux tablet

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Post by vGPU »

kposehn wrote: post #265

As a long time iPad user I’m apprehensive. As others have noted, Linux based touch experiences have so far been lacking. That said, I love the thought of it. I’ve recently started using my iPad Pro as my daily driver (replacing a Mac Studio M1 Ultra no less) and haven’t looked back. The only gripe with iPadOS is it took me a while to get a smooth vscode setup for development - having that be easier out of the box wit…

What? How?

I have an m1 iPad Pro. It mostly collects dust. It’s just atrocious to use for anything more than playing games or basic web browsing. Multitasking makes me want to pull my hair out. Window behavior is horrific. Why doesn’t stage manager allow me to actually resize window and put them where I want them to go? File management is garbage, too. There are just so many weird limitations and missing basic functionalities to make it a viable DD device.

I tried multiple times to make android tablets work for me before Google apparently gave up on them. Never could, but even back in the Xoom days android tablets offered more functionality than my current iPad does.

And this comes from someone who dumped android for iOS years ago.

The iPad is just a disgustingly gimped product.

Re: StarLite 12.5-inch Linux tablet

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Post by contrarian1234 »

jauntywundrkind wrote: post #318
RetroTechie wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It also has a mode where it only starts charging if the battery is below 40% and it'll stop at 60% Wish every battery powered device would have a setting for this. As opposed to always charging when charger is plugged in, and always charging up to 100% (non-configurable).

My sample size isn't big, but on Linux every laptop I've seen has amazing battery reporting information galore. Oh sure battery level. And various assessments of wear. Things like realtime charge or discharge rates. But more notably, I think around half also have charge control. It's just been on/off. But it would be a pretty basic bash script to make this happen.

I have a Huawei Mate book 16 and under KDE (Ubuntu) I can set a charge limit in the energy settings

But it depends on the laptop. From what I understand not all laptops have the drivers for power control ie. the ability to from-software tell the laptop to stop charging

Re: StarLite 12.5-inch Linux tablet

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Post by O1111OOO »

Osiris wrote: post #69

No one has mentioned the 2880x1920 resolution display. That’s fantastic I’m this price range. $500 laptops are (nearly?) impossible to find with displays above 1080p.

> No one has mentioned the 2880x1920 resolution display.

fyi: On their specification page[0] they list both 2880x1920 (s/b 3:2 aspect ratio) and that the screen is a 16:10 aspect ratio. I'm sure the 16:10 aspect ratio is a typo since 2880x1920 is used in multiple places.

[0] https://us.starlabs.systems/pages/starlite-specification

Re: StarLite 12.5-inch Linux tablet

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Post by amiga-workbench »

walteweiss wrote: post #321
amiga-workbench wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just bought a ThinkPad X1 Tablet Gen 3. Everything works great, the on screen keyboard is actually functioning properly and appears on demand every time. Screen orientation is handled properly and promptly. The only let-down so far is battery life, but I need to make some adjustments to help there. I'm running the latest version of Fedora workstation, under wayland too. This thing is the only truly repairable table…

What’s the battery life for you? You didn’t specified. Is it bad compared to tablets or compared to that same device with Windows installed? What the bad is exactly, is it 3–4 hours, is it 10 hours?

3-4 hours right now, but there is about 20% battery wear and I've not setup TLP yet.

Re: StarLite 12.5-inch Linux tablet

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Post by bArray »

unregistereddev wrote: post #270
bArray wrote: post #244

Reminds me of the Pine Tab (v1) with the contact pins at the bottom, fold-up keyboard, etc. Having an Intel processor would make me heaps more confident about good kernel support out of the box. The A64 by Pine is essentially abandoned for Linux kernel development. This device looks great, I would just take care expecting too much from that keyboard. It looks almost identical to the Pine Tab keyboard and that was not…

Sadly, Pine has a long history of using poorly-supported chipsets and doing nothing to improve support. I want to like the company, and their hardware designs show a lot of promise, but ultimately they do not stand behind their product. It's truly a shame. Their products have potential and could build a huge hobbyist community behind them, but extremely few people have both the skills and the time to troubleshoot bug…

> Sadly, Pine has a long history of using poorly-supported chipsets and doing nothing to improve support.

It wouldn't even be difficult either, they could just charge slightly more and then pay a kernel developer to solve these problems.

> Their products have potential and could build a huge hobbyist community behind them, but extremely few people have both the skills and the time to troubleshoot buggy kernel modules.

It's not just buggy kernel modules, it's also significantly buggy hardware too.

The only thing I would say they have got going for them is good connections for hardware and manufacturing which help them reduce costs, otherwise another player could easily take over.

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