Cruise told by CA DMV to reduce robotaxi fleet 50% following crash

Post by fsckboy » Sat, Aug 19, 2023, 3:30 AM UTC

whimsicalism wrote: post #22

jhugo wrote: post #17

> “Over one hundred people lose their lives every day on American roadways, and countless others are badly injured, Cruise said in a statement sent via email. I’m so tired of this angle being accepted at face value. Current driverless cars are not even capable of safely navigating situations that below-average human drivers rarely struggle with, like avoiding driving into clearly marked wet concrete, or not crashing…

Just because they have weird failure cases does not mean they fail more often than human drivers. FWIW as a biker in SF i feel much more comfortable around driverless than actual drivers, especially in areas like the Mission where people don’t check their right before turning onto streets like Guerrero or Valencia. The self driving ones always do

Post by zmnd » Sat, Aug 19, 2023, 3:32 AM UTC

botanical wrote: post #15

I've said it before when a self-driving Uber killed a woman, and I'll say it again: I don't understand why authorities allow self-driving cars to beta test out in public. I thought Waymo was the best with something like millions of hours on the road but when they started accepting passengers, it failed to proceed past a traffic cone: https://youtu.be/zdKCQKBvH-A?t=742 I wouldn't trust any of the others like Tesla and…

Post by gruez » Sat, Aug 19, 2023, 3:33 AM UTC

fsckboy wrote: post #31

whimsicalism wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just because they have weird failure cases does not mean they fail more often than human drivers. FWIW as a biker in SF i feel much more comfortable around driverless than actual drivers, especially in areas like the Mission where people don’t check their right before turning onto streets like Guerrero or Valencia. The self driving ones always do

but just because they have weird failure cases does not mean they fail less often than human drivers either.

Post by 7e » Sat, Aug 19, 2023, 3:37 AM UTC

s0rce wrote: post #32

jhugo wrote: post #17

> “Over one hundred people lose their lives every day on American roadways, and countless others are badly injured, Cruise said in a statement sent via email. I’m so tired of this angle being accepted at face value. Current driverless cars are not even capable of safely navigating situations that below-average human drivers rarely struggle with, like avoiding driving into clearly marked wet concrete, or not crashing…

Here is a human that drove into wet concrete: https://www.wlwt.com/article/car-drives-through-wet-concrete... I'm sure its not that uncommon just not publicized, people are terrible drivers.

Post by BugsJustFindMe » Sat, Aug 19, 2023, 3:41 AM UTC

paul7986 wrote: post #16

rootusrootus wrote: post #13

Everywhere I've lived, it's the responsibility of the emergency vehicle to avoid a wreck when they are crossing an intersection against the signal, whether they're lit up and blasting the siren or not. If the Cruise vehicle really did have a green and the emergency vehicle struck them, then this doesn't actually seem like their fault.

Ummm when you are driving and hear a EMT vehicle you as a driver have to immediately pull to the side and out of the way. Sounds like your giving the robot guinea pig AI car a pass when clearly it did not and will not act like a human does.