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Buy Me a Chair: The wacky world of university endowments

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Re: Buy Me a Chair: The wacky world of university endowments

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I told the university CS department that I wanted to endow a chair there. Not a professorship -- an actual chair, that you can sit in. They'd heard that joke before, unfortunately. I think they're missing a financial opportunity here :)

Faculty chairs do come with physical chairs. The ones I’ve seen are nice, wooden chairs with a little metal plaque with the title and the holder of the chair. I suspect new chairs are purchased for each new holder of the title, and you get to permanently keep yours.

Re: Buy Me a Chair: The wacky world of university endowments

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I told the university CS department that I wanted to endow a chair there. Not a professorship -- an actual chair, that you can sit in. They'd heard that joke before, unfortunately. I think they're missing a financial opportunity here :)

I've noticed lots of universities and parks have mr-and-mrs-financial-benefactor benches on their grounds...

Re: Buy Me a Chair: The wacky world of university endowments

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I told the university CS department that I wanted to endow a chair there. Not a professorship -- an actual chair, that you can sit in. They'd heard that joke before, unfortunately. I think they're missing a financial opportunity here :)

Did they refuse to take your money? That seems unusual. They could have taken your money, and written your name on the underside of the chair with a Sharpie pen.

It didn't get to that stage, unfortunately.

Re: Buy Me a Chair: The wacky world of university endowments

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

to be fair, if she had finished the job and cured cancer, she could buy a Premier League team* (*cuz academics == soccer) There is a natural tendency to diminish money as a measure of anything good, but money really is the yardstick by which we jointly measure all things, trading off time with kids, family, travel, leisure against other priorities, and being rewarded by the rest of society for our contributions to wh…

Giving a 50 million dollar donation does not mean you owe zero tax on 100 million of income. It means you owe exactly the same amount of tax on every dime you kept. Deducting charitable donations just means reducing your income by that amount. You still pay tax on all the rest. Secondly, there are annual limits on the amount you can deduct, percentage wise. What the limit is exactly is circumstantially contingent, bu…

giving a 100 million dollar donation allows you to subtract 100 million from your income (assuming you had a lot more income, there is a limit) which at a 50% tax rate means you gave $50 million out of your account and the charity received $100 million into theirs, the rest coming from the govt in the form of taxes you would have given them but they didn't get from you.

non-profits accepting donations will allow you to structure them as is tax advantageous to you, say $10 million a year for 10 years, is announced as a $100 million donation.

but with appreciated assets something trickier happens. Say I paid $10 million for a block of stock, and it appreciates to $110 million. If I sell it, $100 million of that is income, but I donate the income so I don't have to pay tax on it... However, if I don't sell the stock, and just donate $100 million of it as stock, my charitable contribution is $100 million, and there is no tax on the $91 million portion which is income (did I do that arithmetic right?) and therefore I can deduct the $100 million donation from an additional $100 million of income completely unrelated to this block of stock. The US treasury and public will never see any tax for all that income, and will give me a break on the rest of my taxes.

Re: Buy Me a Chair: The wacky world of university endowments

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I went to a graduation a few years ago at Carnegie Mellon. Some hedge fund guy was making his biggest donation yet and gave the commencement speech. It was endlessly about him and the new building to be named after him and how he was about to own an NFL football team. There was a Nobel Prize winner seated next to him on stage. I don't think she got to say anything, but was recognized for her work in cancer research.…

I saw a graduation a few years back, and I had the same feeling, a financial backer got an honoris causa phd and made a speech.

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My family endowed a (small) prize in memory of our academic parents. Universities overwhelmingly prefer untied donations, but some significant "God, not on sports, please" incidents have led to suspicion of how they think donors feel about the spending. (The prize is to the most deserving student irrespective of academic status, across arts/architecture and computer science and from feedback has been a godsend to som…

My grandparents gave an award for pulp and paper science that is still given out. It’s tiny now, but a full ride for the student. At one point they - the school - were very appreciative, but their enthusiasm has dwindled quite a bit.

Re: Buy Me a Chair: The wacky world of university endowments

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post #19
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

to be fair, if she had finished the job and cured cancer, she could buy a Premier League team* (*cuz academics == soccer) There is a natural tendency to diminish money as a measure of anything good, but money really is the yardstick by which we jointly measure all things, trading off time with kids, family, travel, leisure against other priorities, and being rewarded by the rest of society for our contributions to wh…

Giving a 50 million dollar donation does not mean you owe zero tax on 100 million of income. It means you owe exactly the same amount of tax on every dime you kept. Deducting charitable donations just means reducing your income by that amount. You still pay tax on all the rest. Secondly, there are annual limits on the amount you can deduct, percentage wise. What the limit is exactly is circumstantially contingent, bu…

> Secondly, there are annual limits on the amount you can deduct

There are annual “limits”. No sensible mathematician, programmer, economist, or other non-politician would look at the actual formula and think it was a limit.

Re: Buy Me a Chair: The wacky world of university endowments

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

to be fair, if she had finished the job and cured cancer, she could buy a Premier League team* (*cuz academics == soccer) There is a natural tendency to diminish money as a measure of anything good, but money really is the yardstick by which we jointly measure all things, trading off time with kids, family, travel, leisure against other priorities, and being rewarded by the rest of society for our contributions to wh…

“His tax bracket is say 50%” Even for HN this level of delusion is rare.

What? It’s very easy to be in the 50% range all in. Live in Manhattan and make a million in W2 wages, boom there you go.

Despite all the heeing and hawing, rich people do pay a ton of taxes. It’s mainly the one percent of the one percent you hear about that can structure both their income and lifestyle in a way where they pay less than say someone making 50k in taxes as a percentage.

Re: Buy Me a Chair: The wacky world of university endowments

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post #22

I told the university CS department that I wanted to endow a chair there. Not a professorship -- an actual chair, that you can sit in. They'd heard that joke before, unfortunately. I think they're missing a financial opportunity here :)

I've noticed lots of universities and parks have mr-and-mrs-financial-benefactor benches on their grounds...

Was in an entire classroom that had a plaque on each seat's fold-down desk thingy.

They didn't sell them all, particularly at the back of the class.

One of our classmates and their year was scratched in while they took a nap... I should check if it's still there.

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