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Why Japan has so many ‘never travelers’

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Re: Why Japan has so many ‘never travelers’

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I don't know. Personal opinion follows, YMMV: I've been to Tokyo recently. The subway system is much less convenient than, let's say, NYC. There are multiple operators, you need to purchase tickets separately to each one, it's not obvious for a tourist to understand the reasoning, and you can't pay with credit card (in 2023...), You need to either purchase a special card from a desk, or pay cash. In 2023. I consider…

> you can't pay with credit card (in 2023...), You need to either purchase a special card from a desk, or pay cash. In 2023 Erm, mate "in 2023" you can ALSO put a SUICA card on your phone's electronic wallet. ;-p Frankly, give me Japan's rail system any day of the week. You can get across Tokyo, with multiple changes, and plan your arrival to the minute. Try that in NYC, London or any other city ! And as for the Shin…

Tokyo IS in a bit of a bind right now around IC cards for visitors.

Because of a "chip shortage" suica and passmo cards are not being sold right now (except for commuter cards)

Mobile suica and passmo only works on phones that have felica hardware and licenses. Recent iphones do worldwide, but most(all?) androids sold outside of Japan do not have this available.

Re: Why Japan has so many ‘never travelers’

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> Lack of English skills if only there was some way to remedy this.

Countries that want Japanese tourists could learn Japanese?

sure, if a country wants to try pull in more, they could. Sounds to me like its the Japanese that wants it most though

Re: Why Japan has so many ‘never travelers’

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Isn't the "Lack of English skills" easily solved with the plethora of translator devices and apps these days? About a decade+ ago (I think 2010-11), I remember a woman who sat next to me after Narita, traveling "to explore India." She carried a tiny device the size of a typical compact (make-up thing for person who wants/needs to make up). She had no idea about English but can communicate via her device and it was pr…

It's nice if you don't have to use it much. Otherwise it's a device that makes all your communication lag, and you'te also putting a lot of faith in the translation when you're alone in a foreign country. For ordering at a restaurant it's fine. For trying to find a way to go to the consulate because your bag was stolen, it's not ideal.

I've had no issues with google translate, there is a conversation mode where each person can just tap a button, speak into it, and it converts speech to text and then translates.

Sure you wont want to have a nuanced philosophical discussion, but you can easily have a conversation with it.

Re: Why Japan has so many ‘never travelers’

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Last year I've been asked by a guy for directions to the hotel where he was staying. It standed out for me because: a) he was clearly in his early 20s b) he asked me this after boarding the bus on the same stop as me c) he could find out the directions just by using a plethora of map/navigation (GPS for Americans) apps available here d) he was going the wrong way Just yesterday I saw a woman trying to find out which…

Foreign travelers often don’t have cell access, or don’t have it until they arrive at their first stop.

Sounds like they are just making life hard for themselves, I always check prepaid-data-sim-card.fandom.com before the trip and get the most suitable sim card at the airport.

Re: Why Japan has so many ‘never travelers’

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That is my understanding also, numerous internal destinations that are considered appropriate for various vacation lengths and prices; after all, airline prices get high when crossing the ocean.

I don't think prices are much of a barrier for visiting e.g. Korea. A flight between HND and ICN appears to cost about $120.

I would suspect part of it is the lack of novelty, its like travelling from Australia to New Zealand, its a different country but similar enough that it doesn't really feel "overseas".

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Foreign travelers often don’t have cell access, or don’t have it until they arrive at their first stop.

Sounds like they are just making life hard for themselves, I always check prepaid-data-sim-card.fandom.com before the trip and get the most suitable sim card at the airport.

I find purchasing an eSim from an app on my phone while waiting at the departing airport for my flight is even easier and time efficient than buying a sim card at the destination airport. And cheaper, last I bothered to look at the airport sim card stands. (I'm quite obviously a tourist.)

Re: Why Japan has so many ‘never travelers’

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Sounds like they are just making life hard for themselves, I always check prepaid-data-sim-card.fandom.com before the trip and get the most suitable sim card at the airport.

I find purchasing an eSim from an app on my phone while waiting at the departing airport for my flight is even easier and time efficient than buying a sim card at the destination airport. And cheaper, last I bothered to look at the airport sim card stands. (I'm quite obviously a tourist.)

Yep an esim is even more convenient.

Last time I travelled was pre-pandemic before esims were common place, so I just pre-ordered a SIM card online that I just needed to pick up from an airport booth after showing my passport.

Depending on the country and how rural you are travelling it can also be worth checking out the coverage and frequency band compatibility to ensure you get the best reception possible.

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Most cities where intercontinental tourists go to have Uber. And while I use Apple Maps rather than google I’ve used it in dozens of cities in dozens of countries on 6 continents with limited problems. Or of course I’ve just hailed taxied and shown them the hotel business card or location I’m going to. China is probably the main tricky part, last time I went about 5 years ago I had issues paying with cash, although a…

Japan doesn't have Uber, neither does Thailand. Korea also kicked Uber in 2022. Basically, the shenanigans they pulled to get a foothold in the local markets didn't work everywhere. You'll find local alternatives, but that means local account registration etc.

Thailand has Bolt in some locations, but in many places there are ferocious tuk-tuk mafias that enforce high rates.

Re: Why Japan has so many ‘never travelers’

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Anecdotally from friends, I'd say the top three reasons are: * Lack of money * Lack of time off from work * Lack of English skills, making travel abroad intimidating. In previous generations this was counteracted by bus tours with Japanese guides, but those are seen as lame by the younger generations.

Counterpoints on the last two: - South Korea - Thailand - Taiwan - Hawaii The CNN article does this too, but "traveling" doesn't just mean going to the US or EU. Japanese used to travel a lot to neighbour countries and that didn't cost that much, nor require much english skills. Now money is clearly a factor, but this would go deeper than travel and more into how many Japanese are giving up on many luxuries as they f…

Yeah I just looked up the actual charts, the current measured drop in travel is clearly just due to the onerous travel restrictions that were around due to vaccination requirements (all the requirements to upload documents etc). Those didn't end until this year in Japan, so I don't think we'll have the numbers to make any real conclusions until the end of 2024...
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