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Facebook must pay $100.000 to Norway each day for violating our right to privacy

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Re: Facebook must pay $100.000 to Norway each day for violating our right to privacy

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post #9

>$100.000 each day For clarity & comment skimmers: TFA uses $100,000 in the subheading and beyond. Some European countries use `.` as a thousands separator, so it's not "a hundred dollars a day".

No one uses 3 digits to represent cents, so nobody is going to interpret this as a hundred dollars a day.

Gasoline in the USA was (is?) priced to the third decimal place (always a 9).

Re: Facebook must pay $100.000 to Norway each day for violating our right to privacy

#52
post #24

So 36M USD per year? I wonder how that stacks against the profits they make from that market.

Think of it as a starting point. I'm all for applying network algorithms to fines like this: if you don't back off we'll double the fine. Every time it is levied. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exponential_backoff And if the company can't pay then the execs are on the hook, everybody with a C-level title or a board seat. I would happily wager this would get even the largest entities into compliance within days, weeks…

The doubling of fines was tried successfully against microsoft back in the web 1.0 when they refused to acknowledge the antitrust fine.

Basically the EU(or even Norway) is way to big a market for advertisements for the industry to just ignore so sooner of later adtech will fold and play nice.

Re: Facebook must pay $100.000 to Norway each day for violating our right to privacy

#53
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's downright insulting. Norway is a country not a mere here today gone tomorrow company.

Some companies lasted longer than some countries

Norway was established in 872. A bit before Facebook then. If Facebook lasts over 1,000 years I'll buy you a pint.

Re: Facebook must pay $100.000 to Norway each day for violating our right to privacy

#55
post #49

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Commas are punctuation too... so what are you proposing?

Could use a space or an underscore: 100 000 100_000

How about U+202F NARROW NO-BREAK SPACE?

1 000 (Narrow nbsp)

1 000 (Regular nbsp)

(Assuming HN even allows it.)

Re: Facebook must pay $100.000 to Norway each day for violating our right to privacy

#56

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Nobody should use punctuation as thousands separator regardless of which side you are on.

Commas are punctuation too... so what are you proposing?

At a guess

100000

My personal preference would be: 100000 (monetary symbol), but, I also understand that others might prefer the symbol before the numeric (i.e. $100000), even though you would not say "Dollars one hundred thousand" in English.

Re: Facebook must pay $100.000 to Norway each day for violating our right to privacy

#57
post #33

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They can block FB in their country.

They don't have to, is the thing. If Facebook can't operate as a business in their country, then they can't collect advertising revenue there, can't run FB marketplace, etc. Facebook has always had the option to not operate as a business in a country, that they do is because it's profitable to do so.

It's worth noting that not paying fines in one country is a serious enough deal for the entire European Economic Area that it can escalate to that company not being allowed to do any trade in the entire EEC.

And this fine will increase if Facebook dont comply, it's been done before to even bigger targets like Microsoft(back when windows/office was still relevant) so just being big wont save Facebook here.

Re: Facebook must pay $100.000 to Norway each day for violating our right to privacy

#58
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Commas are punctuation too... so what are you proposing?

Could use a space or an underscore: 100 000 100_000

Interesting! Do you know of any countries that use the underscore? I believe I've seen France(...?) use spaces as a separator, but I've never come across the underscore.

Personally I would like some means of breaking up units of triplets that could be used universally. It's frustrating that there isn't a standard across the globe for such crucial means of expression. It wasn't until fairly recently that I learned that the comma wasn't the universal standard.

Re: Facebook must pay $100.000 to Norway each day for violating our right to privacy

#60
post #9

>$100.000 each day For clarity & comment skimmers: TFA uses $100,000 in the subheading and beyond. Some European countries use `.` as a thousands separator, so it's not "a hundred dollars a day".

No one uses 3 digits to represent cents, so nobody is going to interpret this as a hundred dollars a day.

Cent is short for 'centime' or 1/100th, so indeed, nobody is using three digits to represent cents. But there are currencies with finer grained denominations than cents.

0, 2, 3, 4 are all in use.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_4217

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