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StarLite 12.5-inch Linux tablet

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Re: StarLite 12.5-inch Linux tablet

#201
Great. To me Gnome 3 always seemed a perfect tablet envoronment while fairly imperfect desktop environment so I always wanted a good tablet with it and never wanted it on desktop/laptop.

I feel like buying this one. What inspires me even more is it seemingly having more than one USB-C port.

Re: StarLite 12.5-inch Linux tablet

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A bit ago I did a bit of an experiment with an old surface tablet, where I threw some linux distros at it to see what the experience was. I tried Ubuntu, Manjaro, and Fedora, and all were extremely janky to downright broken. On screen keyboard was completely broken with Wayland, with some apps like Firefox just not popping it open, to others ignoring input. X had trouble with screen rotation. Fedora wouldn't let me p…

I suspect this is largely because the Microsoft Surface products contain a lot of proprietary hardware components that aren't not well supported by the kernel. KDE and friends have pretty good touch screen support, but it's all for naught if you have no drivers.

I found Ubuntu Wayland touchscreen keyboard very broken on a Dell laptop with decent linux driver support. It's a real shame, worked perfectly with X.

Re: StarLite 12.5-inch Linux tablet

#204

A bit ago I did a bit of an experiment with an old surface tablet, where I threw some linux distros at it to see what the experience was. I tried Ubuntu, Manjaro, and Fedora, and all were extremely janky to downright broken. On screen keyboard was completely broken with Wayland, with some apps like Firefox just not popping it open, to others ignoring input. X had trouble with screen rotation. Fedora wouldn't let me p…

>On screen keyboard was completely broken with Wayland, with some apps like Firefox just not popping it open Did you check if FF was actually running in wayland mode? Not trying to blame you, the current situation is pretty dire. The only reliable way of finding out if something is actually using wayland is running xeyes and seeing whether the eyes move above the target window.

Been using wayland on Fedora for years and I don’t know what you’re talking about. Intel and AMD graphics here.

Re: StarLite 12.5-inch Linux tablet

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USB-A to USB-C adapters are cheap. USB-A is past its prime. Your post contains only negative points. There will never be a perfect device because everyone has different wants, so enjoy it for what it is.

I'm sorry, I guess I didn't fully express my thoughts. I'm genuinely excited about the device and had signed up to be notified when it's available. I will, of course, wait for the reviews, but at ~600€ with a keyboard, it's already leagues ahead of my current Chromebook, and this is running a "real" operating system! I expressed my issue with no USB-A ports because I prefer my devices to be self-sufficient (I hope th…

I get where you're coming from, my mouse and keyboard are also still USB-A, but I don't think this is a major issue when you can just buy a decent USB-C dock. I've got one with 3 USB-C ports + display port + HDMI + ethernet etc. I find this honestly much better organizational wise rather than everything leeching from different parts of the laptop, and you're no longer beholden to each variation of laptop having the ports you need (some don't even have ethernet these days...)

Re: StarLite 12.5-inch Linux tablet

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It makes working out which hole to plug something in to rather tricky. Especially when the little lightning bolt or other graphics have rubbed off.

Seconded. And even before then. I have an M1 Macbook Air which will only output video over one of its 2 USB-C ports, not the other. There is nothing visible on the case or in the OS to indicate this. I have had an Arm and an AMD Thinkpad which both have only dual USB-C, and both unpredictably switch between one or the other being bootable, with no discenable pattern.

> I have an M1 Macbook Air which will only output video over one of its 2 USB-C ports, not the other.

Weird, ever since I had USB-C based Mac Mini or MacBook (two Intel, two M1) they could reliably output video on any of the two, three, or four ports (as long as I don't go past the limit). They're essentially symmetric on all features.

Re: StarLite 12.5-inch Linux tablet

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USB-C is equally bad. I really wish they would have the rubber housing of the USB-C go inside the case like an IEC power connector. I break about a USB-C cable every week. Broke one today just by putting it in my backpack while connected to a power brick. Power bricks of the 1990s didn't have this problem. The barrel connectors were almost indestructible. You could drop bricks on VGA connectors and they'd still work.

Wow. I have never yet broken a USB-C cable. Not one. When I used an iPhone for a couple of years, I went through approximately a Lightning cable per month, sometimes more. At one point I took a carrier bag of broken Lightning cables to the electronics recycling. You must treat equipment exceptionally roughly.

I am full USB-C. I have a kid. Mine are treated very roughly. Not a single one ever broke. Comparatively, microusb has died on me quite a lot from regular usage, and always on the device side, which is so much worse.

(Now the cat chewing on cables in another matter xD)

Re: StarLite 12.5-inch Linux tablet

#208
I was going to say "nope", but at below $500? Seems viable.

I just don't like this tablet factor. It's a poorly engineered design - a flimsy top heavy structure that takes a lot of space? What could go wrong. I can't count how many times I accidentally knocked my Surface off the table or when I needed to type something quickly and didn't have enough space on the desk and getting that thing on the lap... eh.

Re: StarLite 12.5-inch Linux tablet

#209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

USB-A to USB-C adapters are cheap. USB-A is past its prime. Your post contains only negative points. There will never be a perfect device because everyone has different wants, so enjoy it for what it is.

I'm sorry, I guess I didn't fully express my thoughts. I'm genuinely excited about the device and had signed up to be notified when it's available. I will, of course, wait for the reviews, but at ~600€ with a keyboard, it's already leagues ahead of my current Chromebook, and this is running a "real" operating system! I expressed my issue with no USB-A ports because I prefer my devices to be self-sufficient (I hope th…

I would go this route :

USB C to USB Hub 4 Ports ($13)

https://syntechhome.com/products/usb-c-to-usb-hub-4-ports

Re: StarLite 12.5-inch Linux tablet

#210

A bit ago I did a bit of an experiment with an old surface tablet, where I threw some linux distros at it to see what the experience was. I tried Ubuntu, Manjaro, and Fedora, and all were extremely janky to downright broken. On screen keyboard was completely broken with Wayland, with some apps like Firefox just not popping it open, to others ignoring input. X had trouble with screen rotation. Fedora wouldn't let me p…

I just bought a ThinkPad X1 Tablet Gen 3. Everything works great, the on screen keyboard is actually functioning properly and appears on demand every time. Screen orientation is handled properly and promptly. The only let-down so far is battery life, but I need to make some adjustments to help there.

I'm running the latest version of Fedora workstation, under wayland too.

This thing is the only truly repairable tablet I've encountered so far, 8 screws and the display pops off, no glue, no can opener required like a Surface Pro. 9 screws to get the heatsink off (they're all captive) and you're at the full size NVME SSD.

https://mos6581.com/pictures/thinkpad/x1-tablet.jpg

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