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Re: SUSE to go private

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openSUSE was one of the first Linux distros I ever used. When I picked it up, I was just a kid, and new to the whole GNU/Linux universe. I quite scared of the command line, and along with the relatively familiar KDE3 desktop, openSUSE's emphasis on comprehensive graphical configurators appealed to me.

As I grew more comfortable with Unix fundamentals and I learned more about the GNU/Linux desktop userland, I left openSUSE behind because I didn't care so much about the GUI configuration tools like YaST. I bounced between Gentoo, Ubuntu, Arch, and more obscure derivatives of each, experimenting and learning a lot about the 'bones' of a Linux distro: the init system, the display server, the initramfs tooling, the filesystem, etc. I became especially fascinated with the 'bones' that truly make a class of distros unique: the package manager and the developer tooling used by maintainers to build the distro.

At some point I revisited openSUSE and realized that underneath the more 'superficial' things— important things, but things that are visible from the get-go— I'd loved about the distro as a newcomer were some truly impressive 'bones'. I can back to find that zypper was the most powerful, ergonomic package manager (of its type) that I'd ever seen. I was blown away by the flexibility and diligence of the Open Build Service infrastructure and how easy it made it for me to maintain repositories for nearly any distro, and grateful for the generosity of the openSUSE org for letting basically anyone make an account and leverage that sophisticated build infrastructure for free. The fact that they even automated QA for pre-boot stuff using screen scrapers and QEMU left a lasting impression on me.

Some years after that reintroduction, I fell in love with NixOS, which is now my daily driver everywhere. But I still have a lot of respect and affection for openSUSE.

I hope this change helps drive openSUSE forward over the long term. openSUSE is a great operating system that I'd recommend to anyone looking for a traditional distro that's pleasant to use and easy to maintain. openSUSE seems extremely underrated, at least here in the US.

And everyone should check out the Open Build Service. You know how on GitHub, you can browse to any repo and click the 'Fork' button to get your own copy that you can hack on and publish? OBS gives you that for Linux packages. You can automatically put together a repo full of packages that track whatever upstream source you like, but build with your own custom patches, build for your CPU architecture, etc. You can even fork a package from a different distro (or different release of your own distro), have it build against whatever you're running, and then get dumped neatly into a repo for you. (All builds happen in clean slate VMs, so you are very unlikely to miss any dependencies.)

Re: SUSE to go private

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post #119

It's not going private. It's getting ready to spiral out in typical PE fashion. Start planning your migrations folks, as its all downhill from here.

Sadly, I’ve been through the PE takeover experience. It wasn’t pleasant and the surviving company bore little resemblance to prior self. The best that can be said for the experience was they gave me a decent buyout. Leap was my main driver for a good number of years though of late Arch in VM has been my daily. I see a migration from SUSE in the near future.

Re: SUSE to go private

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post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fascist corporations have more to do with unions than they do with business corporations: http://www.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/corporatism.htm

I see no mention here of unions or anything similar

Neither do I. I was replying to someone equating corporations with Fascism, which is a complete misunderstanding of corporatism.

But, apparently, making that much sense gets me downvotes.

Re: SUSE to go private

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post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't know that I've ever been optimistic about a company being purchased by private equity. Anyone have counterexamples where that turned out well for customers? The justification sounds good, but they'd say something like that even if the plan was "squeeze money out of the company at the expense of users and customers and reputation."

When Warren Buffet bought Berkshire Hathaway in 1962, he rapidly turned it from a failing textile company into a monster. Not private equity exactly, but he personally bought up 51% of the shares.

Buffet bought Berkshire Hathaway entirely out of spite and has said that it was the worst investment he's ever made. The textile company continued to do poorly under his ownership, and shut down nearly 40 years ago.

Re: SUSE to go private

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post #119

It's not going private. It's getting ready to spiral out in typical PE fashion. Start planning your migrations folks, as its all downhill from here.

Sadly, I’ve been through the PE takeover experience. It wasn’t pleasant and the surviving company bore little resemblance to prior self. The best that can be said for the experience was they gave me a decent buyout. Leap was my main driver for a good number of years though of late Arch in VM has been my daily. I see a migration from SUSE in the near future.

Leap has been announced to be EOL a while ago anyway.

Re: SUSE to go private

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post #59

What are the success stories of private equity firms taking over a corporation? (Where success is the products are still made, quality and staffing is maintained at previous levels)

You don't hear from them. Think about it - you're having beers with a friend and he goes "so the company got bought out and then nothing changed". blank stares as everyone waits for the point / rest of story You hear only of the dramatic ones. Bit like news is nearly entirely bad - bad news sells. People forget that PE firms are buying equity. If the company prospers they get the upside. Contrary to popular hn belief…

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Re: SUSE to go private

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to run SUSE about 20 years ago and have always thought it was cool but haven't kept up with it much since then. What are some of the things they do that make them unparalleled?

Open Build System and OpenQA, for automated building and testing of packages. This is what gets updates to their rolling release Tumbleweed faster than Arch, but with no instability ever. I can't emphasize enough how rock solid Tumbleweed is. OBS also doubles as their own AUR equivalent - you can make your own repo and do your own builds and install from the command line, or browse and install what other people have…

+1 for zypper. The GUI feels very "enterprise-y" but in a good way. You just pick the software you want and it gets the job done quickly and with a minimum of fuss.

Re: SUSE to go private

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Start of the end, private equity ruins everything it touches. RIP SUSE

Private companies funded by public funds is my jam. So, most of the tech megacorps in the US. Oh, the glory of fasc...ehem, capitalism.

> Private companies funded by public funds is my jam. So, most of the tech megacorps in the US

I think you're getting a bit confused by the terms public and private. Most US tech megacorps are public companies e.g. publicly traded private enterprises. They're public companies because they're traded on the stock market, not because they receive "public funds" aka funding from the government; that's not what a company being public means. You seem to be mixing these two up. Insofar as they get money from the government, it's generally in exchange for providing services to the government (aka doing business) or as subsidies, but these aren't what make a company 'public'. Being traded on the stock exchange is what makes a company 'public'.

> Oh, the glory of fasc...ehem, capitalism.

You should probably pump the brakes on adopting any sort of ideology before you get a firm grasp on basic terminology.

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