Oxalates can be balanced out with calcium, that's why cruciferous veggies don't cause as many issues as spinach.
And water, drink water and your kidney stone issues fade away fast.
“Green smoothie cleanse” causing acute oxalate nephropathy
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#62The "cleanse" notion is batty. A functioning urinary and excretory system is all the "cleanse" one needs.
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#63The "cleanse" notion is batty. A functioning urinary and excretory system is all the "cleanse" one needs.
It's like the idea that getting a massage releases all the toxins in your body and you need to drink water after to flush them out. That's what they always tell me after I get one. I have to restrain laughter.
I like the idea that getting a massage releases all the toxins in your body because you need to drink water after to flush them out.
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#64One of the factors in figuring out how safe a particular substance is that there may be gut bacteria, genetic, or other dietary confounders that make something fine for one person but poison for another. A spinach smoothy a day may be good for you but bad for me.
A friends father recently had some issues with gout that were requiring some rather obnoxious dietary measures to tame. He found evidence in the literature about some bacteria strains that were found to be effective, found a source for the identified strains, and swears by the result.
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I used to make green smoothies all the time, even went as far to by an expensive Blentec blender. If you are following Weight Watchers you actually get penalized for blending/juicing vegetables, so I stopped. Normally these are zero point foods. Their justification makes a lot of sense to me: https://www.weightwatchers.com/au/blog/food/why-fruit-counts...
Man, I wish that chewing and food volume would reduce my hunger. The only thing that makes me stop feeling hungry is my blood sugar going back up to a normal level. I'm truly envious if there's actually anybody out there who can eat low-calorie bulky foods and actually feel satisfied by the meal. I just feel bloated but still just as hungry as before eating.
i know exactly what you mean. I can eat like 4 LBS of cucumbers in one sitting and still feel like I could eat a pizza afterwards. when you consume super low calorie foods like cucs and tomatoes, zuchinni, the body actually keeps on counting the calories with incredible accuracy and adjusts your hunger/appetite accordingly. But, I'll say, it does help a little bit and you do get a bit of discount by going with low calorie veggies, it's just not a silver bullet. at the end of the day you'll still consume less calories than you would have: just don't expect one large salad to fill you up. at the end of the day, you still need to go hungry to loose weight or keep it off.
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#66I've been arguing for years with vegans who drink copious amounts for thyroid-damaging kale and kidney-stone-forming spinach juices. Many of the plants are rich in anti-nutrients and natural toxins to weed off predators. Having a normal-size salad is one thing, drinking 2 pounds of kale is something else. People should learn more abou Hormesis and why too much of the bad thing is bad and too little of it is a good thing. Every nutrient and intervention has an optimal range - below and over it turns detrimental to health. Drink too much water and you die from brain swelling; drink too little and you dry from dehydration - everything works around this example although ranges may dynamically vary from day to day. Things are not as simple as we want them to be (for our convenience).
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#67The article says this may only be an issue for those: "susceptible individuals with risk factors such as chronic kidney disease, gastric bypass, and antibiotic use."
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I offer, somewhat tongue-in-cheek, this lecture: Don't eat plants; they're trying to kill you! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1cqNDDG4aA I usually forward it to friends that rant about meat being bad for your health.
Depends on the meat. If it’s western raised pork or chicken, they bioaccumulate omega-6 from their feed that the percentage of their fat that’s omega-6 can rivals or exceed that of “vegetable” oils. Ruminants seem to resist this bioaccumulation. So the wrong meat give you all the same lovely effects of systemic inflammation, paradoxical immune suppression, metabolism suppression, and the pile of strange effects from…
I'm no expert in the matter, but this seems to contradict what you're saying in terms of effects from too much of it:
https://www.health.harvard.edu/newsletter_article/no-need-to...
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#69I've been arguing for years with vegans who drink copious amounts for thyroid-damaging kale and kidney-stone-forming spinach juices. Many of the plants are rich in anti-nutrients and natural toxins to weed off predators. Having a normal-size salad is one thing, drinking 2 pounds of kale is something else. People should learn more abou Hormesis and why too much of the bad thing is bad and too little of it is a good th…
Fact check:
Kale only has 20mg of oxalates per 100g which means 2 lbs has about 180mg of oxalates.
https://e-cnr.org/ViewImage.php?Type=TH&aid=487614&id=T9&afn...
180mg of oxalates isn't that much.
Most people consume 200 to 300 mg of oxalates per day: https://www.webmd.com/diet/foods-high-in-oxalates
and with regards to water. I believe, it's when you sip on water all day that the danger of brain swelling occurs because your body looses the ability to gauge how much water is in it's system and doesn't quite know how much to excrete.
too much of anything isn't good. it's time to start embracing less. it's okay to drink a bit too much water at once because your body can excrete it without problems.
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#70I've been arguing for years with vegans who drink copious amounts for thyroid-damaging kale and kidney-stone-forming spinach juices. Many of the plants are rich in anti-nutrients and natural toxins to weed off predators. Having a normal-size salad is one thing, drinking 2 pounds of kale is something else. People should learn more abou Hormesis and why too much of the bad thing is bad and too little of it is a good th…
you meant plants, not plans.
am I right?