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“Green smoothie cleanse” causing acute oxalate nephropathy

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>Given the increasing popularity of juice cleanses, it is important that both patients and physicians have greater awareness of the potential for acute oxalate nephropathy in susceptible individuals with risk factors such as chronic kidney disease, gastric bypass, and antibiotic use.

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The "cleanse" notion is batty. A functioning urinary and excretory system is all the "cleanse" one needs.

I'm sure it makes a lot of people feel better, but almost certainly because of the cessation of whatever dietary behavior was causing them to feel bad in the first place, as opposed to eliminating some undefined "toxin."

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This is why I tell people to go easy on the spinach when they’re making smoothies.

Yeah, throwing a bunch of greens into a blender is not a great way to consume them. Boiling/steaming is the way to go. The vast majority of vegetables I personally eat are well cooked and mushy.

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The "cleanse" notion is batty. A functioning urinary and excretory system is all the "cleanse" one needs.

Exactly. So when people take"essential oils" or whatever to "detox" - yeah sure, you may feel a difference.

But that's probably because that substance you ingested wasn't healthy in the first place and what you're witnessing is your body trying to get rid of it fast.

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post #5

The "cleanse" notion is batty. A functioning urinary and excretory system is all the "cleanse" one needs.

I'm sure it makes a lot of people feel better, but almost certainly because of the cessation of whatever dietary behavior was causing them to feel bad in the first place, as opposed to eliminating some undefined "toxin."

And as we can see in this case, most of the toxins that you secrete after a "cleanse" are from the "cleanse" liquid itself! Though to play debil's[0] advocate for a second, the body can retain toxins from the environment, e.g. heavy metals, chemicals from plastics, etc. So there is some basis in the idea of trying to purge toxins, but if you find a way to do that with a smoothie from store bought vegetables, you would be up for at least some kind of prize for advancing our understanding of human biology.

[0] https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/debil

Re: “Green smoothie cleanse” causing acute oxalate nephropathy

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This sounds like a Chubbyemu video premise. (It's an excellent YouTube channel that posts semi-dramatised medical educational videos, usually following a fictionalised patient presenting to ER after ingestion of some substance, with an explanation of how that substance causes problems in the body and how a medical team might try to address it.)

Actually, there has been more than one video about oxalate nephropathy already, but from more obviously potentially harmful sources (https://youtube.com/watch?v=QJs431FsC_k&t=6m40s, https://youtube.com/watch?v=UrbylXMU8Mw&t=7m45s).

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