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Twitter's response to US Government search warrant (turned over deleted DMs) [pdf]

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Re: Twitter's response to US Government search warrant (turned over deleted DMs) [pdf]

#91

At this point, Elon's purchase and seemingly-intentional brand-suicide looks more and more like a political favor. I mean, yes, if we shave this with Hanlon's Razor, the outcome is the same, but the rightward swing of Elon's public statements certainly makes this look more like quid-pro-quo than an oopsie.

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#92

At this point, Elon's purchase and seemingly-intentional brand-suicide looks more and more like a political favor. I mean, yes, if we shave this with Hanlon's Razor, the outcome is the same, but the rightward swing of Elon's public statements certainly makes this look more like quid-pro-quo than an oopsie.

I can't get over how Twitter's legal team doesn't show up on time for a court appointment. As a founder, I'm certain they're still billing for the time.

As a neutral observer, I’m fairly certain Musk doesn’t pay them.

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#93

At this point, Elon's purchase and seemingly-intentional brand-suicide looks more and more like a political favor. I mean, yes, if we shave this with Hanlon's Razor, the outcome is the same, but the rightward swing of Elon's public statements certainly makes this look more like quid-pro-quo than an oopsie.

I am not a fan of Musk or Twitter, but can you substantiate this? I'm about 1/10th of the way through the transcript and I haven't come to this conclusion yet.

He is parroting Russian talking points for peace talks in Ukraine. Not that I know anyone who asked for his opinion on the subject.

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#94
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If it were any other man I'd be considering your conspiracy theory but Musk has become so completely unhinged that imho Hanlon's Razor wins. The man has a terminal case of internet poisoning.

What happened to Musk reminds me of what happened to Chris Chan ( https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/CwcvilleGuardian ): internet trolls seemingly broke his mind. I believe that there will one day be a name for this syndrome, wherein a person who is the victim of prolonged internet trolling begins catering to the trolls with increasingly outlandish behavior, with their mind / beliefs warping into a shape that pleases th…

This is definitely a thing I have noticed - part of it seems to be, if you refuse to react to trolls, the trolling can actually get much worse - naturally encouraging a reaction that the trolls want.

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#95

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I just think it will realistically take Twitter more than two weeks to come up with this data. Seems like a long time but my experience at companies of 1,000+ is that things move very slow.

Twitter seemed to think they could. https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cadc.39... Page 8: > Nonetheless, the district court gave Twitter an opportunity to purge its contempt by producing the account information. When the court asked Twitter's counsel whether the company could produce the required materials by 5:00 p.m. that evening, counsel answered: "I believe we are prepared to do that. Yes, Your…

If I'm understanding the transcript correctly, the major issue wasn't that Twitter couldn't collect the information or needed to do extra work to collect the information; Twitter just didn't want to provide the information, seemingly so that they could Trump and have him lodge a (bogus) executive privilege claim.

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#96
post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it were any other man I'd be considering your conspiracy theory but Musk has become so completely unhinged that imho Hanlon's Razor wins. The man has a terminal case of internet poisoning.

What happened to Musk reminds me of what happened to Chris Chan ( https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/CwcvilleGuardian ): internet trolls seemingly broke his mind. I believe that there will one day be a name for this syndrome, wherein a person who is the victim of prolonged internet trolling begins catering to the trolls with increasingly outlandish behavior, with their mind / beliefs warping into a shape that pleases th…

I've been wondering if there is a term for 'the choir glamouring you' sort of thing?

I've been noticing odd behaviors in some public figures that make me believe instead of them 'preaching to the choir' - their 'choir' is convincing them a weird direction is a good idea.

I think this is exasperated by the bubbles of social media - I would love to be able to see what social media posts certain people have seen over the past 5 years or so - like individually, say if I could study every post that rob de niro actually saw in the past so many years.

I feel we need new terminology to describe the kind of warping of the mind and outward behavior changes these things can bring -

or is there some old descriptors I can't think of?

Re: Twitter's response to US Government search warrant (turned over deleted DMs) [pdf]

#97
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Political favor for who?

It's a little bit outlandish, but the most plausible theory I've heard is the Saudis were happy to spend the cash[1] to try to hinder future Arab Spring style events, which were organized largely on Twitter. US banks have a similar motive, it's not hard to draw the line that they would see disrupting low-level leftist activist communication networks on Twitter as valuable. Under that theory, Musk isn't so much doing…

The Saudis were already the top shareholder in Twitter before Elon’s purchase. They were adamantly against it until he let them roll over their stake into X

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#98
post #87

At this point, Elon's purchase and seemingly-intentional brand-suicide looks more and more like a political favor. I mean, yes, if we shave this with Hanlon's Razor, the outcome is the same, but the rightward swing of Elon's public statements certainly makes this look more like quid-pro-quo than an oopsie.

Pretty expensive favor.

If you're MBS and you determine Twitter is the most likely source a the black swan event leading to your regime's overthrow maybe it makes sense to pay the money.

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#99

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Easy-peasy, just open the last 6 years of twitter access logs in Excel and ctrl-F for Donny's ip/device identifier!

Do you really think they don't have some sort of system to index data like device identifiers for quick searching? https://help.twitter.com/en/about-personalization-across-you... > By better understanding how different browsers and devices are related, we can use information from one browser or device to help personalize the Twitter experience on another. For example, if you commonly use Twitter for Android around th…

If you make a data-access request in GDPR you might actually get a massive CSV file with this data in it. Obviously some automated system put it together, not control F, but the legal team totally could be using CSV

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#100

The non-disclosure order by the courts for this warrant was issued to Twitter on January 17th for six months; the day it expired, Reddit suddenly decided to purge all chat history prior to 2023: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36782915

They haven't really purged it, they just haven't copied older data to the new chat system (dumb decision). They still have that data, and you can get it by submitting a data export request: https://www.reddit.com/r/help/comments/14ee0wz/comment/joxzv...
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