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LK-99 isn’t a superconductor

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Re: LK-99 isn’t a superconductor

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It’s disappointing news but the excitement and amount of replication on this paper was pretty fun to witness and experience.

To me the most interesting part was everyone talking about potential consequences, uses, the order of magnitude improvements we’d see in certain costs or areas. Pumps, MRIs, power grids, chips, etc. Great reminder what materials science can do to some underlying economics.

Re: LK-99 isn’t a superconductor

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Well I'm kinda glad I missed this whole news cycle

IMO this phenomenon seems to be kind of an artifact of modern media -- I feel like in the old days, peers would have settled it among themselves, and we would have never heard about it

The same thing happens in tech -- there is a lot of stuff that people talk about, that ends up being worth ignoring

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I always bring up that whole news cycle in 2017 about a potential war with North Korea. How many people spent time and energy on that, and how do they feel about that now? Media is adversarial

Re: LK-99 isn’t a superconductor

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post #5

Well I'm kinda glad I missed this whole news cycle IMO this phenomenon seems to be kind of an artifact of modern media -- I feel like in the old days, peers would have settled it among themselves, and we would have never heard about it The same thing happens in tech -- there is a lot of stuff that people talk about, that ends up being worth ignoring ... I always bring up that whole news cycle in 2017 about a potentia…

You're arguing for less transparency here? I think one of the side benefits to witnessing the LK-99 discussion is people from all walks (sure, Twitter/X isn't the end all/be-all of global communication) discussing/following/listening to actual science happen.

Do you know how much of that is worth to the world with knock-on effects? Maybe there were future material scientists sitting in the room with their parents listening to the discussion? I feel like that's equally as important as peer review/replication.

Re: LK-99 isn’t a superconductor

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What are the practical implications of this?

Perhaps scientists will create a checklist for performing experiments on potential superconductive materials with caveats and gotchas.

A team going down the checklist would either demonstrate one of

1. They performed the step in the checklist and provide the corresponding sufficient/exhaustive evidence of having done so.

2. An explanation as to why that step is not applicable allowing them to skip said step.

An afterthought:

3. The following will not always be possible for any given experiment. However, the LK-99 experiment used cheap materials and a relatively straightforward process to create the material (from my readings of what others have said), I think the scientists in question should have attempted to reproduce the results of their experiment and document the number of successful attempts versus total attempts.

Re: LK-99 isn’t a superconductor

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Good science takes time. Anyone making definitive claims, including this article, is full of it.

LK-99 is probably not a super conductor, key word probably. It’ll be definitive when the original samples have been independently tested.

Re: LK-99 isn’t a superconductor

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Well I'm kinda glad I missed this whole news cycle IMO this phenomenon seems to be kind of an artifact of modern media -- I feel like in the old days, peers would have settled it among themselves, and we would have never heard about it The same thing happens in tech -- there is a lot of stuff that people talk about, that ends up being worth ignoring ... I always bring up that whole news cycle in 2017 about a potentia…

We had similar nonsense with r the EM Drive and cold fusion so this isn’t that new.

Either way the best video I’ve seen on this whole thing, Abe why it’s endlessly frustrating, is this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl-AgmoZ5mo

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