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Good riddance to products like Oink, if it fosters habits like Rose's, if his photos are anything to go by.
Was Oink 100% public or were there private conversation/shares? If everything on Oink was public (like a public blog or Twitter before direct messages), then it doesn't seem like a big deal. It's just making it easier to snoop. Otherwise, wow.
Privacy is not about whether something is public or not. It's about being in control of your data. This is the fundamental misunderstanding that seems to be rampant especially in countries like the US that lack basic privacy regulations. Just because information was public, doesn't mean that using it in certain ways without the permission of the person involved is not a breach of privacy. I seriously doubt this was a…
>Privacy is not about whether something is public or not. It's about being in control of your data.
Google: Define: Privacy
The state or condition of being free from being observed or disturbed by other people.
The state of being free from public attention.
>I seriously doubt this was a type of usages Oink users explicitly agreed to (and no, burying such provisions in the small print doesn't make it legal).
Are you saying it would be a breach of privacy for Twitter to provide a zipfile containing all of my tweets I've ever made publicly? Which any person could get anyways by searching @myname site:twitter.com ?
update2 - Apparently some usernames work and others don't I believe his account is the only one that is made public. Obtaining a list of usernames is as easy as a 'site:oink.com' search in google. curl -I http://oink-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/kevinrose-export.zip HTTP/1.1 200 OK x-amz-id-2: 9lLlixkcIypVbEIPzp7lmAT3gqwxFS3h99pdgnipW5aZVmhy422YA06OaMT7KOXd x-amz-request-id: E6D61A351A455807 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 17:23:28…
Maybe that user is not available anymore or something else because if you try to download cristina-export.zip it sure works.
curl -I http://oink-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/cristina-export.zip
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
x-amz-id-2: gIfqnrhzuVR2HJIhT8Msk37Pp96qabi6Amtq6ZG9makBlT/d5z+bYivF27tac16v
x-amz-request-id: 9A1C02D63152317A
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 17:47:27 GMT
Last-Modified: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 06:09:58 GMT
ETag: "6326a2bc6724b1566530f34f5d96bf26"
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Type: application/zip
Content-Length: 212717
Server: AmazonS3
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Privacy is not about whether something is public or not. It's about being in control of your data. This is the fundamental misunderstanding that seems to be rampant especially in countries like the US that lack basic privacy regulations. Just because information was public, doesn't mean that using it in certain ways without the permission of the person involved is not a breach of privacy. I seriously doubt this was a…
>Privacy is not about whether something is public or not. It's about being in control of your data. Um.. that's not what the word means. It's possible for you to not be in control of your data but still have it be private, and vice versa. Google: Define: Privacy The state or condition of being free from being observed or disturbed by other people. The state of being free from public attention. That's what the diction…
Narrowing it down to a oneliner from a dictionary is not particularly constructive.
And yes, I would say if Twitter did that, it could well be a breach of privacy. It would almost certainly be a breach of the law in most Western countries. Just because you have access to the data, doesn't mean you can just do with it whatever you like without the consent of the owner. Once that zip-file spreads, making the Twitter account private becomes pointless.
Why do so many people think copyright is something perfectly logical, but privacy protection, which has much more to do with protecting the rights of individuals, is something weird?
Relevant piece for those who can't access the page: So, curiously, I tried replacing my username with Kevin Rose’s: http://oink-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/kevinrose-export.zip (go ahead, click it). You’ll get a zip file of every item he has ever added, rated or reviewed. You’ll also get every photo he has ever uploaded to Oink.