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How to be successful as a research mathematician? Follow your gut

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Re: How to be successful as a research mathematician? Follow your gut

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’d be surprised how many fail at step 1, skip step 2 and try straight step 3.

I'm pretty sure that's the point and it's not entirely a joke. Stating the problem to a succinct degree is the hardest part and normally reveals the other steps. If your maths problem is actually a specific instance of a known broader problem then just stating that will point the way forward. In fact a proof that your problem is an instance of a broader problem can generally be a worthy paper in its own right.

The most succinct or abstract is like a normal form, in that many different problems are reduced to one, combining the insights from those different problems, and combining all those researchers to create a larger community.

One effect is like how Latin used to be the language of professionals, so you'd better learn Latin if you want to access the knowledge base.

Re: How to be successful as a research mathematician? Follow your gut

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That's not very actionable advice. I've found this article [0] from Terence Tao very insightful: [A]ctual solutions to a major problem tend to be arrived at by a process more like the following (often involving several mathematicians over a period of years or decades, with many of the intermediate steps described here being significant publishable papers in their own right): 1. Isolate a toy model case x of major pro…

Overheard at the watercooler: The only way a CS guy knows how to prove an algorithm works/does not work is to find counterexamples.

Watercooler guy has never heard of Mathematical Engineering or Edsger Dijkstra. If he had then he'd know that proof by construction is the method par excellence for showing an algorithm is correct.

Re: How to be successful as a research mathematician? Follow your gut

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About as useful as Feynman's algorithm for solving problems: 1. Write down the problem. 2. Think very hard. 3. Write down the solution.

It's useful. It just need a note about the cyclic nature of it and the place of ego

* Forget about glory and peer recognition. One day you'll die and as time passes you'll be forgotten, including anything you made. Don't waste energy fighting it, just embrace it and carry on. Do it for that 1 mn moment of bliss when you found something nice.

* Accept repeated failure. It's ok.

* Spend time to learn why attempt N failed before going to attempt N+1,

* Before attempt N+1, go out for a walk, cook something nice, do something with your kids, have a beer, watch a movie

Re: How to be successful as a research mathematician? Follow your gut

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The whole tirade on rigorous proofs and colonial mindset puzzles me.

From my understanding (I am European ...), rigorous proofs were increasingly seen as a need because as things like calculus progressed, any loose definition had a tendency to become a minefield. Think of the definition of derivatives, continuity. Also, at a time where things were getting mechanize because we could and it was a gain, it was natural to check if we could somehow mechanize math. After all, Pascal made a machine that could do sums, why not a machine for proofs ?

Re: How to be successful as a research mathematician? Follow your gut

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I have a PhD in math, did some successful research, but left math for a variety of personal reasons. My advice:

1. Network, network, network. Get famous or established mathematicians interested in your work.

2. Be a minority. Due to the prevailing ideology of academia, it's much easier to be successful if you are a minority. (I am not saying it doesn't take hard work, but the competition is not as extreme due to intense equity measures.) I will laugh if anyone gets mad at this point. Equity rules make this point an incontrovertible fact.

3. Solve problems related to the work of established mathematicians. Interesting or novel problems that are not related to the work of others will be ignored.

4. Forget about being curious. Okay, this one has some dark humour about it...but seriously, if you just explore your curiosity, you might solve cool problems but you won't be "career successful". It's much better just to make useless investigations into ever-more esoteric problems that validate the "successful" work of others which is becoming increasingly technical.

A note: this might sound a bit cynical, but I thought I'd give another viewpoint to show a bit more of the balanced reality of the math world.

Re: How to be successful as a research mathematician? Follow your gut

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The whole tirade on rigorous proofs and colonial mindset puzzles me. From my understanding (I am European ...), rigorous proofs were increasingly seen as a need because as things like calculus progressed, any loose definition had a tendency to become a minefield. Think of the definition of derivatives, continuity. Also, at a time where things were getting mechanize because we could and it was a gain, it was natural t…

I don't think 'colonial' is the right word; I think it's more to do with theology and Europe's very twisted (and ongoing) history with it.

A very clear example is S Ramanujan's way of doing mathematics, where proofs were secondary to 'calculate, calculate, calculate, then hypothesize, then maybe prove' approach. This was not a one off thing, nor was his strange approach unique.

Indian traditional mathematics also follows SR's approach of compute & then generalize & then prove (which most working mathematicians actually follow to some degree anyway). India was ahead of much of the world in Math until the cusp of renaissance(finally culminating in the dev. of calculus a good hundred years before Newton, and possibly having traveled to and 'inspired' him with the Jesuit missions), and its outcome's are simply extraordinary.

Of course, the tradition was not given any credit whatsoever due to the prevalent racial-thinking in old-Europe; this now continues because Indologists continue to hold onto their inherited toxic racial thinking and prevent anyone else from touching this subject because 'Hindus are bad/dirty/nazis/ people' (you see this with Yoga, NSDR, Mindfullness,... to this day).

Regardless of all the 'credit allocation' business, and somewhat more importantly, it's actually really sad that this tradition is no longer alive, and is instead replaced with a cheap mimicry of Europe. C K Raju has written extensively on this.

It's also not like this way of doing math. is inherently worse. A lot of actual formal math, starting from the construction of real-numbers is actually very 'unreal' when you get down to it. The kinds of hiccups thrown up by real-numbers in the theory of computation needs to be seen to be believed. Chaitin even has a paper by the title 'How real are real numbers'... We actually get around many of these weird issues because the construction of formal mathematics is actually based on ensuring that discretization is stable (this doesn't work in TOC). Still one also can't deny the strides that modern mathematics has made, in large part built on formalization.

All said, to destroy any existing tradition (even Western) is extremely detestable. OTOH given that it is a jealous-monoculture (all of academia has become one big church-like monoculture at this point), the creation of a new tradition needs active support. I wish people would spend time on the latter instead of pointless race-wars (or DEI non-sense).

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Re: How to be successful as a research mathematician? Follow your gut

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I have a PhD in math, did some successful research, but left math for a variety of personal reasons. My advice: 1. Network, network, network. Get famous or established mathematicians interested in your work. 2. Be a minority. Due to the prevailing ideology of academia, it's much easier to be successful if you are a minority. (I am not saying it doesn't take hard work, but the competition is not as extreme due to inte…

> Be a minority.

Won't help if you're Asian IMO.

Re: How to be successful as a research mathematician? Follow your gut

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I have a PhD in math, did some successful research, but left math for a variety of personal reasons. My advice: 1. Network, network, network. Get famous or established mathematicians interested in your work. 2. Be a minority. Due to the prevailing ideology of academia, it's much easier to be successful if you are a minority. (I am not saying it doesn't take hard work, but the competition is not as extreme due to inte…

> Be a minority. Won't help if you're Asian IMO.

Well, it just means you're not a minority in the world of mathematics.

Re: How to be successful as a research mathematician? Follow your gut

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I have a PhD in math, did some successful research, but left math for a variety of personal reasons. My advice: 1. Network, network, network. Get famous or established mathematicians interested in your work. 2. Be a minority. Due to the prevailing ideology of academia, it's much easier to be successful if you are a minority. (I am not saying it doesn't take hard work, but the competition is not as extreme due to inte…

> Be a minority. Won't help if you're Asian IMO.

I meant a minority w.r.t. to the current distribution in math.
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