Haven't seen any of the "Musk is a free speech absolutist!" stans in awhile here, can't they come back ? We could all use the laugh
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37142000
I said nothing about whether I like Elon as a person or not.
X has started reversing the throttling on some of the sites, including NYTimes'
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#12So tired of him. So tired.
Posting here might not be helping.
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#15Haven't seen any of the "Musk is a free speech absolutist!" stans in awhile here, can't they come back ? We could all use the laugh
I'm not sure what meaning of freedom requires you to run a url redirector that has a similar response time for every single possible domain. If there was a rule that made it illegal to differ in response times, would that world be more, or less free?
I don't necessarily agree with the parent's implication, but the point they are making is that a lot of people defend some speech-controlling-but-not-illegal practices of social media sites using the exact same reasoning you are using in your post, and there was a lot of hype around Elon potentially being an opponent of that.
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
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I feel like people just don't know how to deal with trollish people like elon or trump, best you can do is ignore them and they lose the one thing they live for: attention.
The calculus changes for someone like Musk, who is not a troll to a large fraction of the population. In that case, it's beneficial to post something like the GGP because it signals to other people two things: first, you're not alone in disliking this person. Second, it's okay to express that opinion. That second one is important since there is a fine line between ignoring something you don't like and self-censorship out of fear of reprisal.
So, while I agree that you should ignore nobody trolls, I DO NOT think you should ignore famous, politically/economically relevant trolls. It's an act that comes with some risk, and is therefore courageous and admirable.
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#17This feels like it is bordering on anticompetitive behaviour. Or is twitter not enough of a monopoly for that to matter?
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
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I feel like people just don't know how to deal with trollish people like elon or trump, best you can do is ignore them and they lose the one thing they live for: attention.
I agree with the notion of what you're saying, and I usually make a pretty strong point of avoiding this topic, but a counterpoint can really only be so obvious before I can no longer avoid stating it: Trump was the president. It's not really unreasonable to not "ignore" a person when they are the individual elected by the people of your nation as their representative.
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I feel like people just don't know how to deal with trollish people like elon or trump, best you can do is ignore them and they lose the one thing they live for: attention.
That doesn't work, because they just escalate or get other people to act out on their behalf. And really, why should we construct society around the behaviors the worst people? There is some evidence for the proposition that rude responses to provocations is in fact the most effective moderations strategy.
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#20Can anyone actually provide any proof that this was an intentional/nefarious "throttle" by X. Using ten domains as an example is not evidence. Did anyone check the millions of sites on the internet? How do you know there were not lots of sites Elon "likes" that were being throttled? Did anyone test more than 100 domains? This could have easily been a bug. e.g. a bug that was happening temporarily because an in memory…
Gish gallops are extremely unbecoming.