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Asteroid ZTm0038 with a >3% impact probability

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Re: Asteroid ZTm0038 with a >3% impact probability

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.quora.com/Would-an-asteroid-measuring-400-metres... I googled your question :)

Quora is pretty much unreadable now. Is the main answer just chat gpt? That's how it seems from mobile view. The page is too noisy to navigate for me.

Quora has been trash for awhile now.

Re: Asteroid ZTm0038 with a >3% impact probability

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I'm aware that it already passed its closest approach, but what does >3% even mean? 100% is >3%, but 3.000001% is >3% too. Was an impact certain at some point and the probability degraded to a bit above 3% over the course of the asteroid's trajectory? If so, I think I'd like to have a heads up when the probability is still closer to 100%, before it drops?

The linked page indicates:

Impact probability 0.034

Edit: Not familiar with the site, but I get the sense that this probability reflects the latest run. The probability hopefully gets more accurate as observations rise?

I couldn't readily figure out how to see the probability at each of the 8 observations for this one (perhaps this is the first run it's included in--all 8 observations predate this run?), but the page for actual impactors (https://newton.spacedys.com/neodys2/NEOScan/index_past_imp.h...) at least implies that accuracy may improves with each (and then maybe flip to 0/100?)

Re: Asteroid ZTm0038 with a >3% impact probability

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I plugged this into neal.fun/asteroid-launcher. I'm not sure if I did it right (I used the 15.84 km/s as impact speed, picked 45 deg impact, and an iron asteroid). It's certainly serious - millions dead - especially if it hits Manhattan as neal.fun seems to invite you doing, but not world-ending.

I used the Earth Impact Effects Program calc w/ 90 deg impact, rock asteroid, and 15km/s.

https://impact.ese.ic.ac.uk/cgi-bin/crater.cgi?dist=100&diam...

4 mile crater, 2300 MT of TNT equiv. so about 45 Tsar Bombas.

Re: Asteroid ZTm0038 with a >3% impact probability

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I plugged this into neal.fun/asteroid-launcher. I'm not sure if I did it right (I used the 15.84 km/s as impact speed, picked 45 deg impact, and an iron asteroid). It's certainly serious - millions dead - especially if it hits Manhattan as neal.fun seems to invite you doing, but not world-ending.

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Re: Asteroid ZTm0038 with a >3% impact probability

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I'm aware that it already passed its closest approach, but what does >3% even mean? 100% is >3%, but 3.000001% is >3% too. Was an impact certain at some point and the probability degraded to a bit above 3% over the course of the asteroid's trajectory? If so, I think I'd like to have a heads up when the probability is still closer to 100%, before it drops?

I think it specifies that it’s a 3.4% probability in the page.

So it was just an odd choice of title by the poster.

Re: Asteroid ZTm0038 with a >3% impact probability

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post #19
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.quora.com/Would-an-asteroid-measuring-400-metres... I googled your question :)

Quora is pretty much unreadable now. Is the main answer just chat gpt? That's how it seems from mobile view. The page is too noisy to navigate for me.

Yep, they've added a ChatGPT answer on top of all the human answers. Although in this case the human answer isn't really better, but it's the fault of the person who asked the question for being vague about the kind of speed they meant.

Re: Asteroid ZTm0038 with a >3% impact probability

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I'm aware that it already passed its closest approach, but what does >3% even mean? 100% is >3%, but 3.000001% is >3% too. Was an impact certain at some point and the probability degraded to a bit above 3% over the course of the asteroid's trajectory? If so, I think I'd like to have a heads up when the probability is still closer to 100%, before it drops?

From the page: Impact probability 0.034

I guess OP decided to abbreviate to >3% instead of writing 3.4%

Personally I would’ve written ~3%

Re: Asteroid ZTm0038 with a >3% impact probability

#39

I'm aware that it already passed its closest approach, but what does >3% even mean? 100% is >3%, but 3.000001% is >3% too. Was an impact certain at some point and the probability degraded to a bit above 3% over the course of the asteroid's trajectory? If so, I think I'd like to have a heads up when the probability is still closer to 100%, before it drops?

It was 3.4% https://newton.spacedys.com/neodys2/NEOScan/risk_page/ZTm003... If you're not logged in to Twitter, I don't think you can scroll from the linked tweet up to see the one this page was linked from, so I put it here.
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