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Re: Sony and other music labels sue Internet Archive for digitizing old records

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Post by kmlx » Tue, Aug 15, 2023, 2:02 PM UTC

malermeister wrote: post #36

kmlx wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i don’t really understand the connection between “publicly accessible” and “preservation of knowledge and culture”. these are usually distinct subjects.

Who is it being preserved for and why? For a select few, as a bragging point? Or for y'know, all of humanity to preserve their heritage? If knowledge and culture aren't accessible to the vast majority of people, they're not being preserved for humanity. They're locked away from humanity and they might as well be fully gone.

with this comment you're basically dismissing most museums, universities, archives, etc etc

Re: Sony and other music labels sue Internet Archive for digitizing old records

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Post by kmlx » Tue, Aug 15, 2023, 2:03 PM UTC

AlecSchueler wrote: post #38

kmlx wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

from what i know on this subject only “national libraries” have a special carve-out for copyrighted works. and even then the rules are very strict.

National to whom? I believe IA has offices in at least three jurisdictions.

> A national library is a library established by a government as a country's preeminent repository of information. Unlike public libraries, these rarely allow citizens to borrow books. Often, they include numerous rare, valuable, or significant works. A national library is that library which has the duty of collecting and preserving the literature of the nation within and outside the country. Thus, national libraries are those libraries whose community is the nation at large. Examples include the British Library in London, and the Bibliothèque nationale de France in Paris.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_library

Re: Sony and other music labels sue Internet Archive for digitizing old records

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Post by malermeister » Tue, Aug 15, 2023, 4:04 PM UTC

kmlx wrote: post #41

malermeister wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who is it being preserved for and why? For a select few, as a bragging point? Or for y'know, all of humanity to preserve their heritage? If knowledge and culture aren't accessible to the vast majority of people, they're not being preserved for humanity. They're locked away from humanity and they might as well be fully gone.

with this comment you're basically dismissing most museums, universities, archives, etc etc

Are museums not publicly accessible? That's their whole point as far as I'm aware.