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Lincoln Project is very Republican. They just don't support Trump...
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Re: Bankman-Fried used $100M in stolen FTX funds for political donations, US says
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It's not their money to donate, stolen proceeds belong to the victims. They should've given it back to FTX. Additionally, money is fungible, so the politicians can't claim the money is "gone" after being donated, since presumably they're not bankrupt and have other money FTX can claw back.
How easy is it to clawback money donated to a politician through a 3rd party? I am not a lawyer and don't live in the US, but I imagine that being super difficult and lengthy as a process.
Though I'm not sure if most of the straw donors are 3rd parties, since the ones I knew about were officers of the company.
Either way, I feel that the moral action is clear, but some politicians want to still use the ill-gotten gains for their political purposes while claiming to act morally. An act which is unfortunately fooling some people.
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> “All my Republican donations were dark,” he said, referring to political donations that are not publicly disclosed in FEC filings. “The reason was not for regulatory reasons, it’s because reporters freak the f—k out if you donate to Republicans. They’re all super liberal, and I didn’t want to have that fight.” He claims otherwise, although that's obviously not necessarily the truth. The public donations only accoun…
I want to remind everyone following this thread that this is a prime example of the same chicanery and fraud you see on Wall street and that is also found within the VC circles, and not a reflection of the BTC community as a whole.
Mainly because he is an insider of the VC circle, his parents are Stanford'ites who probably used thier connections to get him VC funding from Seqouia who lauded him as a genius while he was high playing video games while on a zoom call with them!
He is from MIT and used the cult that is effective alturism to justify his scam and his disgraced ex-gf/ex-ceo of Alameda is Stanford alumni and the two were seen as the next best thing since sliced bread despite proving that they managed (and I use the term loosely) the to make Enron scam look like child's play. The interim CEO said this was the worst example of bookkeeping and overall management he had ever seen, and he worked as interim-CEO for the Enron case [0]!
Again, you people as a whole say we are scamers, when the reality the ones doing the most scams are people who HN exalts and places on a pedestal as some exhaulted member of Society, when in reality they are malicious, drug-addled, orgy having incompetents with deep connections to Ivy league and Silicon Valley venture Capital who will stop at nothing to grift in masse.
I've been in this space for nearly 12 years now, and not only have we felt the severe impact of this to our collective reputation, but I have never seen this level of incompetence. Even with Karpeles, who I think deserves some leniency after serving time in prison in Japan and having his life ruined in the process, he was just way over his head in emerging technology that had no real analog or precedence at the time: did he scam, all signs point to yes. And did things like the Willy bot makes use of ingenious ways to recover lost/stolen/hacked funds: kind of. He was clearly using horrible OPSEC, and exchange hacks back then were all too common; but FTX was an entirely different thing for reasons that vastly differ starting with socio-economics onward.
Mark was a nerd who bought a Magic the Gathering website and decided to sell bitcoin, not some prat who can't keep his mouth shut about all the crimes he committed online and continued to grift despite being on house arrest... seriously, if this doesn't change your collective attitudes about 'who is the real scammer/grifter' in this space you are beyond anyone's help as your level of cognitive dissonance has no solution.
This is a prime example that we are speed running the gilded age, this imbecile should have all his and his parents assets seized for being inept, and thrown in prison with no parole for at least 25 years. If only to set a precedent that this type of shit needs to stop already; it's why many of us have lost any trust in these institutions in the first place that made cryptocurrencies necessary to begin with: note what Satoshi wrote in the genesis block.
I called it in the Summer of '21 that these idiots were going to prison, there was no way you can be this blatantly stupid and reckless (regardless of who your parents were) for too long. I personally thought that once they started bribing politicians it was likely they would be lost in a flight from the Bahamas and end up in some black site rendition camp if he kept it up and this all became public knowledge, instead the US justice system continued to do what it does best: protect it's own.
And he was on house arrest awaiting trial and kept scamming [1]!
This is who Silicon Valley, Ivy League lauds as it's next Titan of Industry [2].
0: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/nov/17/ftx-enron...
1: https://decrypt.co/150780/bald-token-liquidity-rug-pull-link...
2: https://twitter.com/CryptoWendyO/status/1686146337912602624
Re: Bankman-Fried used $100M in stolen FTX funds for political donations, US says
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He donated like 3 grand to the GOP.
> An amended indictment accused the 31-year-old former billionaire of directing two FTX executives to evade contribution limits by donating to Democrats and Republicans, and to conceal where the money came from. > Bankman-Fried's indictment does not name the two people prosecutors say he used for "straw donors" to donate money at his direction. But other court papers and Federal Elections Commission data show they ar…
> Consequently, based on available data, Mr. Bankman-Fried is the disclosed source of approximately $37,768,312 in contributions to Democratic candidates, parties, and aligned outside organizations in the 2022 cycle. In contrast, Mr. Bankman-Fried is the disclosed source of approximately $320,400 in contributions to Republican candidates, parties, and aligned outside organizations in the 2022 cycle.
And lest you think these are your typical MAGA republicans receiving the money, they are all the most RINO, uniparty republicans you can imagine [1]:
> Since July, Bankman-Fried has made $5,800 contributions, the maximum individuals can give directly to Congressional campaigns, to the committees of Bill Cassidy (R-La.), Susan Collins (R-Maine), Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska), Ben Sasse (R-Neb.), Mitt Romney (R-Utah) and Richard Burr
[0] https://www.citizensforethics.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/12...
[1] https://www.rightjournalism.com/its-not-the-dems-only-ftx-fo...
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Given the political nature of the fraud, I am not confident that will happen, but I am hopeful.
Why would a bankruptcy court judge care about that? They have pretty long terms and they’re not appointed by congress.
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I'm sure FTX creditors will be happy with these choices.
I don't really understand what you're getting at.
Understand yet?
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> An amended indictment accused the 31-year-old former billionaire of directing two FTX executives to evade contribution limits by donating to Democrats and Republicans, and to conceal where the money came from. > Bankman-Fried's indictment does not name the two people prosecutors say he used for "straw donors" to donate money at his direction. But other court papers and Federal Elections Commission data show they ar…
Why are these numbers so different from the original FEC complaint? [0] > Consequently, based on available data, Mr. Bankman-Fried is the disclosed source of approximately $37,768,312 in contributions to Democratic candidates, parties, and aligned outside organizations in the 2022 cycle. In contrast, Mr. Bankman-Fried is the disclosed source of approximately $320,400 in contributions to Republican candidates, parties…
Because CREW is a non-governmental organization, and as such, can't get things like a search warrant. They've no more power than you or I to dig into his internal communications and finances. Their complaint is based on publicly available information prior to SBF's arrest.
Anyone can file a FEC complaint. I can file one against you claiming you donated $500M to the lizard people controlling Queen Elizabeth II's reanimated corpse. It has no evidentiary value.
The government claims they have seized evidence that he secretly was directing tens of millions of dollars to Republican causes via Salame as a straw donor.
Re: Bankman-Fried used $100M in stolen FTX funds for political donations, US says
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Why would a bankruptcy court judge care about that? They have pretty long terms and they’re not appointed by congress.
Everyone, judges included, have their biases that they usually not aware of.
The way the judge’s biases lie and how they might affect their decisions is essentially a random unknowable variable, unless you have good information on this particular judge to support your claim.
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Lincoln Project is very Republican. They just don't support Trump...
Not supporting Trump already puts them at the fringes of the modern Republican party, hardly “very Republican”
So a majority of Republicans were not "Trump or nothing" they just voted for their political appointee. (Doesn't mean they weren't happy with him, just that they would have been okay with someone else)
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in my experience being good at maths doesn't reliably indicate you're good at anything wildly beyond maths. often some related subjects like programming, but not always
is there any evidence they're actually good at math?
Both went to MIT and Stanford respectively, then went on to be professional traders (Jane Street Capital); now, one wouldn't think that was all because of who their parents were, right? As in this only possible because of their own merit to be sure. That is how this system works, after all!
Honestly, I went to private school, and these idiots reminded me of the children of the affluent who were so irredeemably stupid that their parents will stop at nothing to hide their shame and just pay to have them have some role in a freinds company just to offload them.
There is an interview of her saying on record that she doesn't use or need anything she learned in her math degree to do what she does and man... did that come back to bite her in the ass!