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CNET is deleting old articles to try to improve its Google Search ranking

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Re: CNET is deleting old articles to try to improve its Google Search ranking

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This is some bullshit. It’s bad enough that a lot of sites with content going back 10-20 years have linkrot or have simply gone offline. But I am at a loss for words that they’re disappearing content on purpose just for SEO rankings. If this is what online publishing has come to we have seriously screwed up.

The real reason: hiding it from ai scrapers?

It’s on archive.org, is that really going to work?

Re: CNET is deleting old articles to try to improve its Google Search ranking

#582
post #434

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In a major site redesign a couple years ago, we dropped 3/4 of our old URLs, and saw a big improvement in SEO metrics. I know it doesn’t make sense and that Google says it is not necessary. But it clearly worked for us. I think a fundamental truth about Google Search is that no one understands how it actually works anymore, including Google. They announce search algorithm updates with specific goals… and then silentl…

Which SEO metrics?

We ranked higher for more keywords and traffic from organic search went up.

Re: CNET is deleting old articles to try to improve its Google Search ranking

#583

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Is this why Google search is really terrible now? The search results are nearly unusable today compared to 1-2 years ago

People have said that for years.

Is this related to privacy? I know I have my web activity set to delete after 18 months. Is it too small?

Re: CNET is deleting old articles to try to improve its Google Search ranking

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post #574

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If you choose to throw yourself on a public forum doing PR for a company doing dumb things and you also insult everyone's intelligence by lying to them, people are gonna be a little rude

"choose to throw yourself" "a company doing dumb things" "insult everyone's intelligence" "lying to them" That's a little hyperbolic, don't you think? Do you even hear yourself? I fully understand Google hate but directing it at one person who is literally just doing their job (and hasn't lied to anyone despite your allegation) is childish and counterproductive. Save that for Twitter. Danny has been here since 2008.…

No, I'm not being hyperbolic. There is one reason for the SEO algorithm to reward longer articles, and that's ad revenue. To paint it as anything else is lying. And you opened up this conversation extremely rudely with "OMG are you so dumb you think he owns Google."

How long I've been here is irrelevant.

Re: CNET is deleting old articles to try to improve its Google Search ranking

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post #574

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"choose to throw yourself" "a company doing dumb things" "insult everyone's intelligence" "lying to them" That's a little hyperbolic, don't you think? Do you even hear yourself? I fully understand Google hate but directing it at one person who is literally just doing their job (and hasn't lied to anyone despite your allegation) is childish and counterproductive. Save that for Twitter. Danny has been here since 2008.…

No, I'm not being hyperbolic. There is one reason for the SEO algorithm to reward longer articles, and that's ad revenue. To paint it as anything else is lying. And you opened up this conversation extremely rudely with "OMG are you so dumb you think he owns Google." How long I've been here is irrelevant.

>you opened up this conversation extremely rudely

That wasn't me. Maybe pay closer attention?

>reward longer articles

The age of articles was being discussed, not article length. Maybe pay closer attention?

Actually... you know what, never mind.

Re: CNET is deleting old articles to try to improve its Google Search ranking

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post #506

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It was clearly a response, yes, but an answer is always better than a response. Thank you for answering!

I am of the opinion that its just internet becoming more spammy and unhelpful rather than google searching becoming bad. Every Tom and his mom seems to have a blog/website which they don't even write themselves. Most of the content on the internet is now for entertainment rather than purpose or knowledge. So, I do wonder if its just the state of the internet these days. As a layman, these days I just go directly to W…

The Internet is becoming spammy and bad because of Google's rules for ranking. The fact that Google favors newer content and longer pages with filler text is why people are making the content lower quality.

Re: CNET is deleting old articles to try to improve its Google Search ranking

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post #585

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No, I'm not being hyperbolic. There is one reason for the SEO algorithm to reward longer articles, and that's ad revenue. To paint it as anything else is lying. And you opened up this conversation extremely rudely with "OMG are you so dumb you think he owns Google." How long I've been here is irrelevant.

>you opened up this conversation extremely rudely That wasn't me. Maybe pay closer attention? >reward longer articles The age of articles was being discussed, not article length . Maybe pay closer attention? Actually... you know what, never mind.

The age of the articles was discussed in the original article, but when I was speaking to this engineer, I was talking about the length of articles which is the main criticism levied against Google SEO. I'm aware you didn't read any of it

Re: CNET is deleting old articles to try to improve its Google Search ranking

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> I mean, people are bad at editing. "I didn't have time to write a short letter, so I've written a long letter instead." I don't think it's a conspiracy. Making a long video isn't like writing a rambling letter. It takes work to make 10 minutes of talk out of a 1-minute subject. And mega-popular influencers do this, not just newbs who haven't learned how to edit properly yet.

"Tell me everything you know about Javascript in 1 minute." Figuring out what not to say is the hard part of that question. Rambling into the camera for an hour is easy.

But we're not talking about people taking 10 minutes to summarize a complex topic. We're talking about people taking 10 minutes to deliver 30 seconds of simple, well-delineated info.

This is something that happens a lot. I'll Google a narrow technical question that can be answered in three lines of text--there's literally nothing more of value to say about it--and all the top hits are 5+ minute videos. That doesn't happen by accident.

Re: CNET is deleting old articles to try to improve its Google Search ranking

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Exactly this, not any different than how they behave with youtube, it seems deceptive at best

Yeah, Google’s statement seems obviously wrong. They say they don’t tell people to delete old content, but then they say that old content does actually affect a site in terms of it’s average ranking and also what content gets indexed.

"They say that old content does actually affect a site in terms of it’s average ranking" -- We didn't say this. We said the exact opposite.
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