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OpenTerraform – an MPL fork of Terraform after HashiCorp's license change

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Re: OpenTerraform – an MPL fork of Terraform after HashiCorp's license change

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Post by redwood »

_msw_ wrote: post #129
bityard wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it is indeed unfair for AWS to make money off hosted open-source mongodb Why? If software authors don't understand that releasing their code under an open source license means someone else other than them may potentially benefit from it, that's really on them.

Disclosure: I work for Amazon. Amazon has never offered a database service based on the MongoDB server software. Not when it was AGPLv3 nor when it was SSPLv1.

But Amazon did copy the software and continues to sow confusion in the community about which is which

Re: OpenTerraform – an MPL fork of Terraform after HashiCorp's license change

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Post by proxysna »

linuxftw wrote: post #62
proxysna wrote: post #16

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Yes, people underestimate how important consul and vault are in modern infra. There is no direct replacement for vault or consul in how versatile and powerful these tools are.

I definitely underestimate them because in my last 7 roles I haven't used either. I don't know how far back 'modern' goes, but 3 roles were over the last 24 months (just started a new role) and none of those roles the companies used consul or vault to manage anything.

Ask yourself how much of the industry your experience represents. Should answer your question.

Re: OpenTerraform – an MPL fork of Terraform after HashiCorp's license change

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Post by _msw_ »

redwood wrote: post #131
_msw_ wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disclosure: I work for Amazon. Amazon has never offered a database service based on the MongoDB server software. Not when it was AGPLv3 nor when it was SSPLv1.

But Amazon did copy the software and continues to sow confusion in the community about which is which

No, it didn't copy the software. That's like saying min.io copied S3 software, which would also be false.

It implemented a wire protocol for interoperability purposes, similar to functionality in IBM DB2, Azure CosmosDB, FerretDB, and other databases.

Re: OpenTerraform – an MPL fork of Terraform after HashiCorp's license change

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Post by redwood »

_msw_ wrote: post #133
redwood wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But Amazon did copy the software and continues to sow confusion in the community about which is which

No, it didn't copy the software. That's like saying min.io copied S3 software, which would also be false. It implemented a wire protocol for interoperability purposes, similar to functionality in IBM DB2, Azure CosmosDB, FerretDB, and other databases.

Right and it continues to sow confusion in the community

Re: OpenTerraform – an MPL fork of Terraform after HashiCorp's license change

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Post by _msw_ »

redwood wrote: post #134
_msw_ wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it didn't copy the software. That's like saying min.io copied S3 software, which would also be false. It implemented a wire protocol for interoperability purposes, similar to functionality in IBM DB2, Azure CosmosDB, FerretDB, and other databases.

Right and it continues to sow confusion in the community

If there is anything specific you believe is confusing, please provide some details and I will pass the feedback on.

Re: OpenTerraform – an MPL fork of Terraform after HashiCorp's license change

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Post by TheWifiLag »

yellowapple wrote: post #95
Roark66 wrote: post #19

In this I'm mostly concerned by the extremely vague description of what is it you can't do with this new terraform commercially. You can't "compete" with hashicorp. Well, if I'm doing devops consulting and I write terraform for clients is it competing with hashicorp? If not, what if they start offering such service tomorrow? Will it be competition them? Personally, speaking figuratively, I think they just pulled a sh…

> As someone doing devops consultancy since well before terraform became a thing I'd have no problem at all going back to custom python code with configuration in yaml if the clients decide its better for them. Or for that matter, custom Python code with Pulumi - which AFAICT ain't pulling these sorts of shenanigans (yet).

“Thanks to integration with Terraform providers, Pulumi is also able to support a superset of the providers that Terraform currently offers.” From Pulumi’s site

Re: OpenTerraform – an MPL fork of Terraform after HashiCorp's license change

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Post by redwood »

_msw_ wrote: post #135
redwood wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right and it continues to sow confusion in the community

If there is anything specific you believe is confusing, please provide some details and I will pass the feedback on.

Sure just do a Google search and you will see that a user searching for the database is going to get routed to the clone in the AWS organic and sponsored results
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