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Re: Tell HN: t.co is adding a five-second delay to some domains

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I can confirm. NYT shows a five-second redirect delay: "wget https://t.co/4fs609qwWt ". It redirects to gov.uk immediately: "wget https://t.co/iigzas6QBx "

I almost didn't believe OP, because it's so comically inept and petty. But, I can also confirm in some private testing there is a deliberate delay.

"because it's so comically inept and petty"

This is precisely why I did believe OP. This is Elon Musk we're talking about.

Re: Tell HN: t.co is adding a five-second delay to some domains

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The speed at which enshitification is being unleashed surprises me each and every day.

Enshitification is different. It’s when companies destroy a product with hundreds of changes that prioritise internal politics above what end users want. This is something else - just the ego of one rich guy petulantly satisfying his inner demons.

"Porque no los dos?"

A five-second delay may be enough to cause a measurably increase in the "stickiness" of Twitter if some people wait Then they spend more time generating ad-revenue for Twitter than if they had gone off to the New York Times or something and started browsing over there.

Re: Tell HN: t.co is adding a five-second delay to some domains

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, yes, many sites are banned on HN. Others are penalized (see e.g. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... ). None of this is secret, though we don't publish the lists themselves. Edit: about 67k sites are banned on HN. Here's a random selection of 10 of them: vodlockertv.com biggboss.org infoocode.com newyorkpersonalinjuryattorneyblog.com moringajuice.wordpress.com surrogacymumbai.com max…

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You don’t have to apply both sides logic to everything in life.

Re: Tell HN: t.co is adding a five-second delay to some domains

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can confirm from europe. shouldn’t this be illegal in america?

Net neutrality was repealed in 2018.

Network Neutrality has historically been more about malfeasance by ISP networks which have higher/more-concrete barriers to entry, as opposed to the websites.

Re: Tell HN: t.co is adding a five-second delay to some domains

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It isn't banned in comments - https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... , https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... , etc. We probably banned it for submissions because we want original sources at the top level.

And how was the decision made to ban Federalist, but not say Guardian or The Daily Beast? Do you have any process in place to ensure that your political biases don't influence the list, or you don't care about that?

Why do you assume the Federalist is blocked because of its political leanings?

Re: Tell HN: t.co is adding a five-second delay to some domains

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post #15

I can confirm. NYT shows a five-second redirect delay: "wget https://t.co/4fs609qwWt ". It redirects to gov.uk immediately: "wget https://t.co/iigzas6QBx "

It’s about 4.5 seconds for me https://imgur.com/a/qege0O9

Any DNS resolver libraries have a 4.5 second timeout? Maybe their infrastructure is just rotting.

Re: Tell HN: t.co is adding a five-second delay to some domains

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can confirm from europe. shouldn’t this be illegal in america?

Net neutrality was repealed in 2018.

And then reinstated again at the state level. It never went away, this just doesn't apply because Twitter isn't an ISP (in that sense).

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And how was the decision made to ban Federalist, but not say Guardian or The Daily Beast? Do you have any process in place to ensure that your political biases don't influence the list, or you don't care about that?

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> no obligation to promote right-wing propaganda and hate

Your poor unintentional choice of words (hopefully) makes it sound like left-wing propaganda and hate is something worthy of being promoted.

Do hope you don't mean it this way.

Re: Tell HN: t.co is adding a five-second delay to some domains

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you could maybe show some testing? if that's true, then it should be measurable

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37130129 has some wget commands that absolutely confirm it, at least with a couple examples. You can run the commands yourself in the terminal.
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