as a noob, I'm curious why avoid Ubiquity's hardware?
My Overkill Home Network
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Re: My Overkill Home Network
#452Earlier quoted context omitted.
> 5-10 years ago I would think this is perfectly fine. I believe I was not alone in this, but maybe I was. The energy would have cost pennies too and why whine about it? When I moved into my own home (8 years ago) I brought my 'homeserver' with me. Which was just a simple i5-2600 build with some shucked drives in it. I never thought about electricity prices when I lived with my parents. But that changed rather fast.…
>I than proceeded to put a Pi next to it, that would listen to incoming Plex requests and would start up and shut down the server with WoL. How hard is this to configure? I have a server at home I use to run a database and computational heavy code, however I am the only user so realistically it is only in use 8 hours a day and some weekends etc. However in the fear of forgetting to turn it on before I go to work (or…
> How hard is this to configure?
Not at all. Just ensure that you have WoL enabled on the host machine and than proceed to send a magic packet. You could even do this with Home Assistant [1] if you are into that. I did this with a script that used tcpdump to monitor for incoming traffic [2] for Plex with an additional (dummy) Plex server on the Pi. I also remember faintly that I had to add 1 library and 1 video file to make this work though.
Powering down - or sleep - is a bit harder. I built a 'Sleep on LAN' app [3] for myself years ago that could power down (or sleep) a system on demand using a REST API. I used this and Tautulli [3] with Home Assistant that would check if there were any active streams and if there wasn't any activity for a specified amount of time I would send a SoL request to my service.
As you can see it isn't super hard or complicated, but a bit cumbersome to find all the moving bits and make it work. But when it does, it's IMHO fantastic.
1. https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/wake_on_lan/
2. https://gist.github.com/alex3305/8cc73ddd2c8ca6328f20235480a...
Re: My Overkill Home Network
#453Earlier quoted context omitted.
>I than proceeded to put a Pi next to it, that would listen to incoming Plex requests and would start up and shut down the server with WoL. How hard is this to configure? I have a server at home I use to run a database and computational heavy code, however I am the only user so realistically it is only in use 8 hours a day and some weekends etc. However in the fear of forgetting to turn it on before I go to work (or…
If it's just that, you can have a Pi next to it and just ssh in to send a WoL command. Basically nothing to configure. You can make it simpler to use by making an alias in your shell, or a button on your phone (with one of the countless "ssh button" apps). Or even make a web page for it (some php or python that just calls the WoL function). OP describes a more transparent (and complex) setup where the Pi presumably a…
I used tcpdump with a dummy Plex server that listened to incoming requests [1]. Because those request are automatically generated when a user opens up the Plex app. And I than proceeded to send a WoL request.
A reverse proxy would of probably worked too, but I didn't want to be limited by the 100Mbps network interface of my Pi 3B.
1. https://gist.github.com/alex3305/8cc73ddd2c8ca6328f20235480a...
Re: My Overkill Home Network
#454Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thank you. I spent a good few moments trying to wrap my head around this measurement.
Honestly, I thought it made more sense to measure it that way if you're trying to work out the electricity bill.
I intentionally wrote the consumption in kWh instead of just Watts.
Watts is the energy consumed "right now" (which is the product of Volt x Amps), but needs a time dimension to give a measure of historical consumption, which is where the Watt Hour (Wh) comes into play.
While most people are aware that X consumes Y Watts, few consider how much that addes up to over the course of days or weeks.
Few people are aware that a simple ethernet switch will roughly consume 1W per plugged in port, so an 8 port switch might consume 8-16W of power just sitting there, so 4-9 kWh/month.
My old homelab used to consume around 300W when idle, meaning it was consuming 300 * 24 * 30.5 = 219 kWh/month, and with electricity prices reaching €1/kWh, that suddenly becomes A LOT of money to have a Plex server available 24/7.
Re: My Overkill Home Network
#455Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hold on a second - how large of a household are we talking? House or apartment? What consumes all that power? Electric vehicle? Work from home? I'm environmentally conscious (0 cars, 0 pets) but I haven't spent any time measuring and optimising electricity usage. I've had a look at my own electricity usage every once in a while, now averaging 48 kWh/month (between 38 and 68) for a larger than average apartment for tw…
48 kWh / month is amazing! That's 4 kWh / day. Just cooking on our induction burner and instant pot can use up 1 kWh on a day with lots of meal prep.
Isn't 48 kWh/month = ~1.6 kWh/day? That seems impossible. Even 4kWh / day seems impossible for me. I exclusively use electricity, except for heating. My water heater alone consumes about 2kWh/day. Not even talking about cooking, using my computer or watching tv.
Re: My Overkill Home Network
#456I used to have an overkill home network, complete with self hosting everything and 10G backbone. These days i'm more pragmatic. I have exactly 2 wired machines, and everything else runs Wifi. The network "rack" is simply a firewall and a 16 port POE switch, everything else network related has been retired to the closet. My NAS is gone. With electricity frequently going above €1/kWh last winter, it seemed like a bad i…
I think a NAS is fine when you lock it down to sleep when it's not being used. Sure, means you have to wait for it to wake up every time you want to use it, but I mostly use mine (a 4 bay Synology) to back up photos (raws) from a camera so I only need access sparingly.
Re: My Overkill Home Network
#457Earlier quoted context omitted.
Americans tend to drive larger cars than other nationalities. These cars use more fuel. Most of these people do not need large cars and would be fine with smaller ones that use less fuel. Therefore, by choosing larger cars, they're using more fuel than necessary. An explanation is that only care about their own comfort, not the environment.
tbf a lot of murricans live in rural environments where a truck does indeed make sense because of the lots of unpaved roads. city dwellers not so much
As a Kiwi now living in the UK, "unpaved roads" are not an excuse for the American excess found in vehicles like the F150, F350 etc. Unless you're literally crawling over raw grassy hills, a standard sized Japanese car (like a civic etc) will still do gravel roads just fine.
Re: My Overkill Home Network
#458Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I have to categorize this as a (un)typical American person Holier-than-thou much?
Americans tend to drive larger cars than other nationalities. These cars use more fuel. Most of these people do not need large cars and would be fine with smaller ones that use less fuel. Therefore, by choosing larger cars, they're using more fuel than necessary. An explanation is that only care about their own comfort, not the environment.
Unfortunately that trend is going international as I see other countries also starting to buy up huuuuge SUVs etc.
My childhood in NZ was like, medium sized perfectly reasonable Japanese cars on the road, some small-ish (by American standards) utes where people needed to haul a month's worth of groceries back to the farm. Now everyone & their Mum is driving an SUV in the UK (where I'm living now) and this is made even more obscene by the narrow, historic roads here.
And you look at the inside of these plush, rounded range rovers designed not for crawling up a mountain but the urban commute and if you're lucky enough to spot one not being driven by a single occupant (also common), expecting ridiculous cargo and passenger space and...no, they've just somehow managed to fill the space with more nothing. 2-2.5 tonnes of nothing. A >3L engine to move your nothing around.
Even American friends of mine here agree & laugh at "oh v6/v8 is common and they're 3-7L and yet aren't really that efficient at making power".
Re: My Overkill Home Network
#459Very nice setup, thanks for documenting it! I used to have a much more involved at-home network, but since moving the business out of the garage, I've moved most of the network stuff with it. Still think I'm going to have to pay pole attach fees and string my own fiber if I ever want it at the house...
We want to see you run that fiber! Do post about it if you ever do it
If only I could find a way to get someone else to pay for it :P I tried to convince one of the local electrical co-ops to do it, and use my day-job's building (we own it) as the CO for the area. They actually sounded interested but then went radio silent.
Brightspeed did basically the same thing a few months ago, but they kinda suck.
Re: My Overkill Home Network
#460Anyone else have experiences with Ruckus APs? I have Unifi right now. edit: RUCKUS R760 - $1800 - Wi-Fi 6E 4x4:4 RUCKUS R560 - $950 - Wi-Fi 6E 2x2:2 RUCKUS R750 - $820 - Wi-Fi 6 4x4:4 RUCKUS R650 - $520 - Wi-Fi 6 4x4:4
To add to my other comment: AFAIK Ruckus is not targeting consumers. They sell to managed services providers and probably even then not directly but through a reseller. The MSRP for APs in this sense is much like MSRP for rack servers - it's huge on paper but in reality the price is chipped away by volume discounts, long term agreements and licenses. Retired(yet perfectly capable) APs go through ITAD and end up on ebay/craigslist for much better prices.