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Ask HN: How do you look for jobs in 2023?
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Re: Ask HN: How do you look for jobs in 2023?
#272Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is an official unemployment rate that includes people who are not actively looking within X time. See U-6 unemployment rate: https://www.macrotrends.net/1377/u6-unemployment-rate https://www.bls.gov/cps/definitions.htm >U-6 is the broadest measure of labor underutilization. In addition to the total number of unemployed and all people marginally attached to the labor force, U-6 includes people at work part time…
I've never run across that before. I think a lot about the 20 percentage points who aren't reflected in the official BOLS' rate. Specifically about the ones who would absolutely work but are daunted by their significant barriers to job entry. I'm hopeful these charts will reflect at least some of them.
There is always labor force participation rate if you want all encompassing:
https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/civilian-lab...
Re: Ask HN: How do you look for jobs in 2023?
#273Indeed. Last year I more than doubled my income by applying with the “click to apply” feature on indeed with a 4 sentence long cover letter. Later I had a couple short zoom culture interviews and a take-home project which I sunk 10 hours into and outshined 30 other applicants. Offer in my inbox in less than 7 days. Mind you, this was after a grand total of like 20+ hours of interviews at other companies, with on the…
> a take-home project which I sunk 10 hours into
10 (ten) hours? youre gonna outshine other applicants cuz most of them (and a lot of HN) isn't going to do that.
don't put more time into the app then they'll put into you.
Re: Ask HN: How do you look for jobs in 2023?
#274Earlier quoted context omitted.
100k house in Canada is a mobile home.
Not really. There are actual homes, but they're old and no where close to major cities Couple of examples https://www.realtor.ca/real-estate/25857143/101-galway-stree... https://www.realtor.ca/real-estate/25917262/323-pottery-stre... https://www.realtor.ca/real-estate/25938347/3-pacholok-avenu...
honestly id rather have the mobile home, easier to fix, probably closer to stuff i want [insert meth joke here], and i don't have to worry about the foundation flooding.
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Thank you for this suggestion. I think it's infinitely more interesting than the meme-y, parroted 'grind leetcode' response to improve job prospects. And it can give you more direction than trying to think of hobby projects to put on github.
I know people who have joined AWS because their OSS contributions opened doors for them. It is a great suggestion imho.
...and then left < 2 years later because AWS is Amazon and will grind you out
Re: Ask HN: How do you look for jobs in 2023?
#276A lot to unpack in the comments here and I'm ready for the downvotes! First of all the credit market is in a crunch now and has been for some time. This makes investment rounds for small to medium sized startups both more difficult yield less. That means that hiring is slowing down if not straight up stopping for these startups. Second, there's a lot of pessimism here but I think the future is still bright. We defini…
I've just got rejected by a company despite having experience in their rather obscure niche and doing well in the interviews and got hired by another company as a generic web dev.
> stand out
I don't know, may be it's more random than we usually imagine?
Re: Ask HN: How do you look for jobs in 2023?
#277Earlier quoted context omitted.
Joel Spolksy has an interesting quote about this: "Third, and trust me on this, there’s still an incredible shortage of the really good programmers, here and in India. Yes, there are a bunch of out of work IT people making a lot of noise about how long they’ve been out of work, but you know what? At the risk of pissing them off, really good programmers do have jobs" From: https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2005/01/02/adv…
Dan Luu has an interesting post about it as well. https://danluu.com/hiring-lemons/
From about half-way down the post:
" At the last conference I attended, I asked most people I met two questions:
Do you know of any companies that aren't highly dysfunctional?
Do you know of any particular teams that are great and are hiring?
Not one single person told me that their company meets the criteria in (1). A few people suggested that, maybe, Dropbox is ok, or that, maybe, Jane Street is ok, but the answers were of the form 'I know a few people there and I haven't heard any terrible horror stories yet, plus I sometimes hear good stories', not 'that company is great and you should definitely work there'. Most people said that they didn't know of any companies that weren't a total mess. "
Re: Ask HN: How do you look for jobs in 2023?
#278Earlier quoted context omitted.
Joel Spolksy has an interesting quote about this: "Third, and trust me on this, there’s still an incredible shortage of the really good programmers, here and in India. Yes, there are a bunch of out of work IT people making a lot of noise about how long they’ve been out of work, but you know what? At the risk of pissing them off, really good programmers do have jobs" From: https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2005/01/02/adv…
I think there's some truth to this. Made a throwaway to comment but I am (~15 yrs exp) making around 500k total comp and have a $400k base salary job waiting for me if I were to lose this job (but way more hours). If you have a strong network, use it. Cold hires are what's really hard right now.
A strong network isn't the silver bullet most people think it is. It'll get you bumped to the front of the line, but that's it. You still have to ace whatever crazy 10-round interview process that company has set up.
Re: Ask HN: How do you look for jobs in 2023?
#279Dev wages have to come down. The last 10 years have been crazy. Lots of devs are paid like doctors, without the limited supply or years of expensive training. It wasn't going to last.
As someone genuinely passionate about technology who sees the 90% in it for just the easy money at college, I'm very happy. Less superficial monetary incentive means people who are truly passionate about the craft will have more of an opportunity to shine.
if you're passionate about technology then hows about you do it for less, and let the rest of us who need to feed a family get that $$$
Re: Ask HN: How do you look for jobs in 2023?
#280I'm a new grad and I was extremely scared because of all the doom and gloom on HN and reddit. I also felt like new grads would be hit the hardest. Come application time... it was totally normal. Had some interviews and some rejections. Ended up getting multiple offers with very competitive compensation. While I may be the exception rather the norm, there are definitely companies that are still hiring and some that ar…
new hires can be brought on for less than the mid-to-high end. plenty of demand for fresh blood that doesn't know how the industry works and can be worked hard for 5 years.
run a couple cycles of firing the seniors and hiring noobs and you can get the wages down.
what did someone in that role make 2 years before?