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I assumed culture was a large component to this, but I don't know enough about South Korea to compare its high altitude people to those of the US. Maybe it is something environmental?
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Are Denver and SLC considered remote? My own city is about at sea level, but by car the next closest cities are 3 hours to the north, 6 hours to the east, and 9 hours to the south. I’d say we are more remote, despite being at a much lower elevation.
Denver and SLC are reasonably big cities. If you need, for example, a big-city childrens' hospital, they have them. Then you start to drive out of town, and there is N O T H I N G. I mean, from SLC, there's Ogden and Provo, maybe Park City. From Denver, there's Colorado Springs and Fort Collins. Once you get past those, it's a long way to the next anywhere. So are they isolated? Depends on how you define isolation. D…
Median household income seems like a pretty bullshit metric when talking about parts of the country where it's not uncommon for multi-million dollar ridgetop mansions to coexist with gross poverty. All of the high elevation country I've visited (disregarding obvious outliers like Denver and the front range) had a few things in common: very wealthy people enjoyed having homes there and the rest of the locals were dirt…
Why is this a bad case for using the median, which is normally pretty resilient to influence from outliers?
I grew up in a mountainous region where the ridges separate the valleys. If your friend lived a mile away, it might take 20 miles of driving to get there because of the separation.
I wonder if they've measured that people who are very isolated have more suicide?
I recall seeing this article from 2014 referring to suicides in Utah ('utah paradox') and how neuroscientist Perry Renshaw was trying to link it to altitude: http://mic.com/articles/104096/there-s-a-suicide-epidemic-in... which links to another study from 2011: http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/abs/10.1176/appi.ajp.201... "Together, the stray statistics and stories about life out west tipped off Renshaw to a common…
This aligns with my similar theory (lack of O2 leads to depression) that was born from observations of yoga, meditation and walking all forced people to breath more air through breath work, exercises or going outside, lead to better mental health outcomes. I am going to assume that in urban vs rural areas that is a similar effect from air pollution. But all my doctors have been inclined to give me pills for depressio…
I would make these claims instead:
- people at altitude spend more time indoors avoiding extreme weather caused by the altitude
- o2 levels to the brain are not significantly different for people whose bodies have adjusted to the altitude already
- people who live at altitude are more likely to be more active
- cities in modern western countries are largely clean of major sources of air pollution (one of the few things NIMBYs are good at)
- cities in developing countries (eg. Pakistan, India, China) are incredibly different
- rural areas are largely clean of air pollution except in hotspots (eg. factories and mines)
- your doctor likely doesn’t do actual science (“explore relationships”), but rather just disseminates the evidence that others have already recorded
- your doctor likely works in the USA where we pay fee for service. Maybe you should look at how single payer systems align healthy patient long term outcomes align with the single payer total costs.Median household income seems like a pretty bullshit metric when talking about parts of the country where it's not uncommon for multi-million dollar ridgetop mansions to coexist with gross poverty. All of the high elevation country I've visited (disregarding obvious outliers like Denver and the front range) had a few things in common: very wealthy people enjoyed having homes there and the rest of the locals were dirt…
Why is this a bad case for using the median, which is normally pretty resilient to influence from outliers?
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I live in a rural area and air here is significantly better than smog filled and ozone enriched air in the city I used to live in. Not to mention the lack of winter fog that can linger around for weeks at times. And that's excluding the light and noise pollution that are inevitable in urban areas. Yeah, living in a rural area is pure hell.
What do you believe Ozone is?!?
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This aligns with my similar theory (lack of O2 leads to depression) that was born from observations of yoga, meditation and walking all forced people to breath more air through breath work, exercises or going outside, lead to better mental health outcomes. I am going to assume that in urban vs rural areas that is a similar effect from air pollution. But all my doctors have been inclined to give me pills for depressio…
Your link from "yoga, meditation and walking" to oxygen availability is... to put it mildly, in need of extra support.
Elite, and dedicated amateur, athletes will develop specific breathing routines to increase O2 availability in support of increasing their VO2 Max but even for sedentary (so, typical) adults practically any form of mindful breathing coupled with higher-than-typical physical exertion will increase oxygen availability.
Their breathing routines not coincidentally almost always mirror some kind of yogic breathing technique.
Yogic breathing in hypobaric environment: breathing exercising and its effect on hypobaric hypoxemia and heart rate at 3,650-m elevation
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8413908/
Effects of Slow Deep Breathing at High Altitude on Oxygen Saturation, Pulmonary and Systemic Hemodynamics
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3495772/
When you meditate or do yoga asanas (poses) with a focus on your pranayama (breathing) as a matter of routine for long enough you subconsciously start performing yogic breathing all of the time.
Walking is just irrefutably, no-citation-needed, good for you.
I recall seeing this article from 2014 referring to suicides in Utah ('utah paradox') and how neuroscientist Perry Renshaw was trying to link it to altitude: http://mic.com/articles/104096/there-s-a-suicide-epidemic-in... which links to another study from 2011: http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/abs/10.1176/appi.ajp.201... "Together, the stray statistics and stories about life out west tipped off Renshaw to a common…
For that to be true, you'd need to establish that blood oxygen levels differ significantly across altitude adapted individuals, and I don't believe that this is the case. Also, when I first moved from Philadelphia to a village in New Mexico at 6000', I remember reading that I should plan on a 3 phase adapative process that would take as much as 9 months to complete. This makes me give less weight to things like the 2…