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Veilid is an open-source, P2P, mobile-first, networked application framework

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Re: Veilid is an open-source, P2P, mobile-first, networked application framework

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Post by sp332 »

Semaphor wrote: post #21

Also discussed 8 days ago as "Cult of the Dead Cow wants to save internet privacy with new encryption protocol, 82 comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37018404

It wasn't launched yet, and there were very few details then. Now there's a slide deck and code.

Re: Veilid is an open-source, P2P, mobile-first, networked application framework

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Post by brunoqc »

ngc6677 wrote: post #16

Any API accessible easily from Javascript client side? The trend seems going towards web-browser local-first applications. So an application on the client side, once was loaded the site's domain delivering the code, can work offline without network access, and synchronize later with its "associated peers/nodes/servers" (if they decide to). Though wasm exists, it would be nice to be able to have a "high level API" so…

there seem to be a json api: https://gitlab.com/veilid/python-demo/-/blob/103ae2211b452f1...

Re: Veilid is an open-source, P2P, mobile-first, networked application framework

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Post by wuming2 »

api wrote: post #18

I saw this talk at DEFCON. It seems to combine ideas from IPFS, BitTorrent magnet links, Tor, and things like scuttlebutt. There was a very strong focus on privacy including for metadata. The biggest weaknesses I saw were around DOS attack resistance, which I did not see addressed. There were good approaches for privacy and security but what if someone with resources (botnet or money) wants to just burn the network d…

No expert but I do wonder how a cheap client can be more secure than a professionally managed server.

Re: Veilid is an open-source, P2P, mobile-first, networked application framework

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Post by kstrauser »

bartvk wrote: post #23

It says on the linked page that it's a "mobile-first framework" but what is mobile-first about it? I'm having trouble finding Swift or Kotlin code. Or do they mean something else?

The key here is that it’s designed to deal with flaky and changing network connections, CGNAT, and small devices running on batteries.

It also runs great on big servers with public IPs! But you can use it on your phone without turning your phone into a hand warmer.

Re: Veilid is an open-source, P2P, mobile-first, networked application framework

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Post by kstrauser »

brunoqc wrote: post #26
ngc6677 wrote: post #16

Any API accessible easily from Javascript client side? The trend seems going towards web-browser local-first applications. So an application on the client side, once was loaded the site's domain delivering the code, can work offline without network access, and synchronize later with its "associated peers/nodes/servers" (if they decide to). Though wasm exists, it would be nice to be able to have a "high level API" so…

there seem to be a json api: https://gitlab.com/veilid/python-demo/-/blob/103ae2211b452f1...

Yep! The Python API is the first one released, but it’s a wrapper around Veilid’s own JSON API. You can talk to a Veilid node using any language that speaks JSON.

Re: Veilid is an open-source, P2P, mobile-first, networked application framework

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Post by soitgoes511 »

dboreham wrote: post #25

Can anyone access the demo example repo linked from this page? : https://veilid.com/chat/ (points to : https://veilid.com/chat/ )

I haven't been able to. I attempted to yesterday also with no luck. Their site mentions availability after recovering from DEF CON or something to that affect.
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