Software Engineering at Google (2020)

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Post by nvahalik » Mon, Aug 14, 2023, 2:06 PM UTC

Software Engineering at Google (2020)
abseil.io

Re: Software Engineering at Google (2020)

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY » Mon, Aug 14, 2023, 2:13 PM UTC

That's pretty interesting.

I can't tell, right offhand, but is this an official Google publication?

Re: Software Engineering at Google (2020)

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Post by traxmaxx » Mon, Aug 14, 2023, 2:14 PM UTC

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #2

That's pretty interesting. I can't tell, right offhand, but is this an official Google publication?

seems to be the content of https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/software-engineering-at...

Re: Software Engineering at Google (2020)

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Post by mushufasa » Mon, Aug 14, 2023, 2:15 PM UTC

Cool. Could someone, maybe an ex-googler, comment on which parts of these work well and which don't?

A lot of other companies get into trouble trying to cargo-cult what Google does when they are operating in very different environments wherein those practices aren't optimal. E.g. different levels of scale.

Additionally, critics of Google may point out that their engineering culture may not be great on its own terms -- every time Google launches a new feature, people post links to the Google product graveyard.

Re: Software Engineering at Google (2020)

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Post by xyzzy_plugh » Mon, Aug 14, 2023, 2:15 PM UTC

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #2

That's pretty interesting. I can't tell, right offhand, but is this an official Google publication?

Yes: https://abseil.io/resources/swe-book

Re: Software Engineering at Google (2020)

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Post by dboreham » Mon, Aug 14, 2023, 2:16 PM UTC

This part is good: https://abseil.io/resources/swe-book/html/ch13.html#prefer_r...

Re: Software Engineering at Google (2020)

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Post by jsnell » Mon, Aug 14, 2023, 2:16 PM UTC

(2020). Earlier discussions:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31224545 (304 points, 179 comments)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22609807 (222 points, 70 comments)

Re: Software Engineering at Google (2020)

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Aug 14, 2023, 2:17 PM UTC

traxmaxx wrote: post #3

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #2

That's pretty interesting. I can't tell, right offhand, but is this an official Google publication?

seems to be the content of https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/software-engineering-at...

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Re: Software Engineering at Google (2020)

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Post by hiddencost » Mon, Aug 14, 2023, 2:17 PM UTC

mushufasa wrote: post #4

Cool. Could someone, maybe an ex-googler, comment on which parts of these work well and which don't? A lot of other companies get into trouble trying to cargo-cult what Google does when they are operating in very different environments wherein those practices aren't optimal. E.g. different levels of scale. Additionally, critics of Google may point out that their engineering culture may not be great on its own terms -…

Engineering culture has somewhat collapsed at Google. The things that made engineering great didn't really survive the last couple rounds of internal coups.

Re: Software Engineering at Google (2020)

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Post by dagipflihax0r » Mon, Aug 14, 2023, 2:17 PM UTC

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #2

That's pretty interesting. I can't tell, right offhand, but is this an official Google publication?

see also: "Software Engineering at Google: Lessons Learned from Programming Over Time" 1st Edition by Titus Winters (Author), Tom Manshreck (Author), Hyrum Wright (Author) O'Reilly