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Re: Google marked https://old.reddit.com/r/programming/ as unsafe

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Post by midenginedcoupe »

This bot's behaviour made me drop all Google products.

A few years ago it marked my company's entire domain as unsafe without any reason. Any human would have been able to tell the flag was incorrect, but "algorithm says no".

There is no team in Google to escalate to, no team managing this service, and no way to get an incorrect flag lifted in anything like an acceptable timeframe.

In the meantime, Gmail just silently decided to drop any email I either sent or received that mentioned my own domain name. I didn't know my customers were notifying us of the problem, and they weren't getting any of my updates. It was horrific. Our production service was down for ~ 3 days whilst Google just sat on their hands and refused to do anything about it. We were running a highly visible citizen-facing service for the UK Government and Google didn't care they'd broken it for everyone.

This runaway bot is a menace to the web and I refuse to give Google any more money until they've demonstrated they can run this responsibly.

Re: Google marked https://old.reddit.com/r/programming/ as unsafe

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Post by horsawlarway »

This tool has completely destroyed my opinion of Google. As a developer in my 30s, Google was a huge part of tech in my formative years - in a positive way.

Today... Google flags my domains as "unsafe" at least 3 times a year (For deceptive login forms - apparently having the gall to host tooling like bookstack/jellyfin/mealie is "deceptive" because they... ask for my login info? I don't fucking know, google won't tell me why they flag it)

They are about as locked down as you can get - 100% A scores on securityheaders.com - traffic monitoring so I know nothing untowards is happening. I don't see any particular or unusual traffic before they flag me.

But just hosting the login is enough - apparently I'm unsafe in Google's eyes. I spam the misdetected link, and 2 months later the unsafe warning pops off.

...only to show up again 6 to 8 weeks later. Rinse and repeat.

My opinion of Google today? Google can get fucked. I want the company to die. I want them out of browsers, I want them out of phones, I want this fucking ad company to get the fuck off my internet.

Re: Google marked https://old.reddit.com/r/programming/ as unsafe

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Post by gmerc »

midenginedcoupe wrote: post #4

This bot's behaviour made me drop all Google products. A few years ago it marked my company's entire domain as unsafe without any reason. Any human would have been able to tell the flag was incorrect, but "algorithm says no". There is no team in Google to escalate to, no team managing this service, and no way to get an incorrect flag lifted in anything like an acceptable timeframe. In the meantime, Gmail just silentl…

This is the thing that needs to be regulated. It will force these companies to spend actual money on stuff. they’ll be still insanely profitable but not able to run quasi monopolies on infrastructure and extract all profits while externalising all the damage.

Re: Google marked https://old.reddit.com/r/programming/ as unsafe

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Post by asu_thomas »

midenginedcoupe wrote: post #4

This bot's behaviour made me drop all Google products. A few years ago it marked my company's entire domain as unsafe without any reason. Any human would have been able to tell the flag was incorrect, but "algorithm says no". There is no team in Google to escalate to, no team managing this service, and no way to get an incorrect flag lifted in anything like an acceptable timeframe. In the meantime, Gmail just silentl…

> no way to get an incorrect flag lifted in anything like an acceptable timeframe

Define "acceptable timeframe"

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