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Re: The Dance of Śiva

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Post by vardhanw »

nsenifty wrote: post #2

> Pāṇini, during his twelve-year-long tapas (fervour, ardour) to Śiva, hears the ḍamaru beat fourteen times. Fourteen classes of syllables drop, resonant, into his fervent ears. a i u ṇ ṛ ḷ k e o ṅ ai au c ha ya va ra ṭ la ṇ ña ma ṅa ṇa na m jha bha ñ gha ḍha dha ṣ ja ba ga ḍa da ś kha pha cha ṭha tha ca ṭa ta v ka pa y śa ṣa sa r ha l 47 syllables in Shiva Sutra by Panini ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiva_Sutras…

This article [0] proves that the Pāṇinian Shiva Sutras are optimal in some mathematical sense. I'm just learning to get into this, learning Sanskrit grammar, etc. and get a sense of the Asthadyaayi [1] so that I can approach it later in more detail. There are various ways to approach it and some online sites make an attempt, but as per an acquaintance who has been taught under a teacher, it [1] is almost impossible to understand without a teacher. Still, this document [2], seems to give a good understandable overview with pointers for further study.

[0] https://user.phil.hhu.de/~petersen/paper/petersen_jolli_proo... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%E1%B9%A3%E1%B9%AD%C4%81dhy%C... [2] https://learnsanskrit.org/vyakarana/

Re: The Dance of Śiva

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Post by throwawake »

nprateem wrote: post #20
throwawake wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since past few years, I am able to trigger a sensation at my will which is so pleasant that it's addictive. I looked for some medical phenomena and found ASMR (autonomous sensory meridian response). My experience differs from ASMR as mine begins in the opposite direction of ASMR and is like a continuous flow. The KAP has very similar description of Kundalini. At this point I am confused.

If there's a strong sexual or electrical feeling to the sensation, if it emanates from the base of the spine, moves within (or just in front of) the spine, or in the centre of your head you may want to look into yogic and meditative practices (including KAP). Perhaps the descriptions in this AYP lesson [1] will resonate with you. I've found their forum very helpful for answering questions. [1] https://www.aypsite.com…

That and the details in link indeed resonate with me. This practice helps me focus and relax so that's good enough for me. It goes away when my brain is clogged with thoughts and comes back when I clear everything. I'll have a look at these practices to learn more. Thanks

Re: The Dance of Śiva

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Post by fuzztester »

nsenifty wrote: post #9
TriNetra wrote: post #7

Secrets of Mahatandava extracted from [0] Shiva plunged in deep dhyana on Kailasha while Devi watched him patiently with contentment. She had not known the feelings of lack, discontent or aggression. She did not miss the comforts of Chintamani griha. The snowy mountains or the icy cave meant nothing. Like the blowing wind is not careworn about its destination, like rain that falls cares not where it lands, Devi just…

Varanane = One (female) with a gifted face. God, Sanskrit names are so beautiful! Also, apt username (the three-eyed one)

>God, Sanskrit names are so beautiful!

I think so too. And there are many such names.

Another Sanskrit name that I like from the time I heard it some years ago, is Mrchchhakatika, The Little Clay Cart, the name of a play.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%E1%B9%9Bcchakatika

One tip for anyone interested to check out such names, is to look at the Vishnu Sahasranama, the 1000 names of Vishnu, and Lalita Sahasranama, the 1000 names of Lalita.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vishnu_Sahasranama

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lalita_Sahasranama

Re: The Dance of Śiva

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Post by user_7832 »

nprateem wrote: post #8

I've finally worked out how to awaken kundalini. I'm holding back for now, but plan to practice a lot from October until it happens. It's going to be a wild autumn.

If you don't mind my asking - why do it? From my very limited understanding of vedant, moksh is the only "true" goal. Is awakening the kundalini more of a "fun" exercise or is it helpful for say meditation?

Re: The Dance of Śiva

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Post by nprateem »

user_7832 wrote: post #24
nprateem wrote: post #8

I've finally worked out how to awaken kundalini. I'm holding back for now, but plan to practice a lot from October until it happens. It's going to be a wild autumn.

If you don't mind my asking - why do it? From my very limited understanding of vedant, moksh is the only "true" goal. Is awakening the kundalini more of a "fun" exercise or is it helpful for say meditation?

Hmm, a couple of reasons:

* some subjective 'proof' that there's more than just this material existence

* the impermanence of all things in life seems pointless and makes me sad

* personal growth emotionally and spiritually

* to aid meditation. It's supposed to allow you to enter deeper absorptive states quickly - which is where you can do the real work of gaining insight - without having to adopt a 24/7 monastic lifestyle. Hopefully that will allow me to carry on living a relatively normal life, or at least make those states more accessible.

It also carries a fair share of risks (intense energy surges, intense heat, hallucinations, heightened senses, sensitivity to food, the environment, unbalanced emotions, depression to name a few I've heard of), but, well, I'm as prepared as I can be. I'm probably wrong on some or most of the above. But nothing in life is without risks, and I'd rather regret what I have done in this respect instead of being too afraid to step through that doorway.

Re: The Dance of Śiva

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Post by mistrial9 »

nprateem wrote: post #12
namanyayg wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How did you learn to do that?

There are multiple resources that teach how to do it: * https://kundaliniawakeningprocess.com/blog/ (aka KAP) - the most comprehensive course and incorporates lots of safety features to help you deal with the strong energy currents that arise * https://aypsite.com/ - also thorough and non-sectarian, but doesn't go into as much detail on the safety side * Dharana darshan by Saraswati - a good book (used to be on kindl…

beware ecstatic practices without similar compassion

Re: The Dance of Śiva

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Post by ta8903 »

nsenifty wrote: post #2

> Pāṇini, during his twelve-year-long tapas (fervour, ardour) to Śiva, hears the ḍamaru beat fourteen times. Fourteen classes of syllables drop, resonant, into his fervent ears. a i u ṇ ṛ ḷ k e o ṅ ai au c ha ya va ra ṭ la ṇ ña ma ṅa ṇa na m jha bha ñ gha ḍha dha ṣ ja ba ga ḍa da ś kha pha cha ṭha tha ca ṭa ta v ka pa y śa ṣa sa r ha l 47 syllables in Shiva Sutra by Panini ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiva_Sutras…

I could be wrong but from what I understand, the Shiva Sutras are just the ordering of letters (like, an alphabet), while Iroha is supposed to be poetry.

Re: The Dance of Śiva

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Post by minhm »

nprateem wrote: post #25
user_7832 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you don't mind my asking - why do it? From my very limited understanding of vedant, moksh is the only "true" goal. Is awakening the kundalini more of a "fun" exercise or is it helpful for say meditation?

Hmm, a couple of reasons: * some subjective 'proof' that there's more than just this material existence * the impermanence of all things in life seems pointless and makes me sad * personal growth emotionally and spiritually * to aid meditation. It's supposed to allow you to enter deeper absorptive states quickly - which is where you can do the real work of gaining insight - without having to adopt a 24/7 monastic lif…

> the impermanence of all things in life seems pointless and makes me sad

Wouldn't impermanence itself be impermanent then so we won't need be bothered by it too much?

Re: The Dance of Śiva

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Post by HexDecOctBin »

dilawar wrote: post #5

I thoroghly enjoyed the anime "Record of Ragnarok" ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Record_of_Ragnarok ). Shiva loved dancing (along with his brother Rudra). He is reimagined very well. Buddha is imagined a bit more cooler though :D. In a sister comment, someone has pointed out stark similarity in Shiva Sutra and Jap Iroha (TIL, Thanks!). PS: I hope some over jealous Sanghi does not start filing police report that it…

> PS

Haven't seen it yet, but I wonder how is Allah portrayed? And if he is not, why not? Maybe because he's not a pagan heathen God?

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