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Re: Ask HN: How do you look for jobs in 2023?

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Post by ghaff »

alexpotato wrote: post #29
teirce wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Been looking since about February. I've probably sent out at least a hundred apps for positions I was interested in and met qualifications for. I think I've made it to a recruiter screen around ~10 times, and I've had less than 5 actual interviews follow. I have 6+ years in industry, 4 and some change of which were FAANG (which everyone believes is a golden ticket into any company). And I can't even get an interview.…

>which were FAANG (which everyone believes is a golden ticket into any company). In a past job, I saw a LOT of former FAANG candidates as a hiring manager (SRE @ hedge fund) at a past job. In my experience, FAANG folks have a somewhat barbell distribution where it's either: A. "This person is incredibly talented, well spoken and will probably find a job anywhere" B. "This person spent 5 years at a FAANG and worked on…

At conferences and the like I've always been super-impressed by the Google folks I've spoke with and listened to. But it's also my understanding that Google doesn't let just anyone "out in the wild" so I assume I'm pretty much seeing one end of the barbell (or probably a smallish slice of it).

Re: Ask HN: How do you look for jobs in 2023?

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Post by lotsofpulp »

confidantlake wrote: post #82
the_only_law wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the job reports and unemployment rates at all time lows I think this is because the issues described are particularly to software right now. Unemployment is pretty low, but I see a lot more people complaining about barely scraping by or hurting financially. My guess is that it’s mostly crappy jobs. Particularly in my locality there’s a massive divide between rent/property costs and average pay. I was trying to do s…

I don't believe the unemployment rate is as low as they claim. A low unemployment rate would mean employees would be less picky but they aren't. It is almost impossible to find a job right now. It is definitely tough to do research. A lot of the jobs posted are fake.

I see lots of employers who are not picky. Hotels, grocery stores, hospitals, warehouses, construction crews, transportation businesses, etc.

Employers in one sector being picky is not evidence of all employers being picky.

Re: Ask HN: How do you look for jobs in 2023?

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Post by epicureanideal »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #89
frfl wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your experiences are too similar to what I've seen. I don't think the public preconception has yet to realize this is what reality if looking like for many people rather than the headlines about no-recession, jobs everywhere, low unemployment. I was going to link my other comment, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37112093 , but you already read and commented on that. Just try to hold out, it's just absolutely ter…

> Your experiences are too similar to what I've seen. I don't think the public preconception has yet to realize this is what reality if looking like for many people rather than the headlines about no-recession, jobs everywhere, low unemployment. Both can be true. Many people can have a reality of not being able to find buyers for remote work performed on computers. And the data indicating non remote work, possibly no…

> And the data indicating non remote work, possibly not performed on computers is widely available

The initially reported jobs numbers each month always claim that, and then those numbers are consistently revised down over time so that jobs have been lost the whole time, and our perceptions were more accurate than the initially reported data.

Re: Ask HN: How do you look for jobs in 2023?

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Post by nine_k »

frfl wrote: post #8

Bit of a tangent, but what has been everyone's experience so far in 2023 trying to find a new job? I got really interested in this and have been passively researching it (HN, reddit posts). My conclusion, so far, is unless you've got strong connections it's hard right now to find a job. Most job posting, as OP mentions get hundreds if not thousands of applications. Other times, I've personally also notice, candidates…

It's been more than 3 months since I've started looking for a job.

Back in May and June, things were really bad. Layoffs everywhere, basically no open engineering positions. Late July and early August were / are much better, some recruiters even reaching me, instead of me reaching them.

Still pretty hard; about a hundred companies rejected me, of them a couple dozen after several rounds of interviews, and several after apparently successful final rounds.

Re: Ask HN: How do you look for jobs in 2023?

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Post by base698 »

TrackerFF wrote: post #40

I must be incredibly lucky, because every job I've gotten the past years have been through the "normal" channels, meaning that I found the job listing on some rather huge classifieds website. I then just typed up a honest job application, updated my resume, and applied for the jobs. Always got a reply, and eventually a job interview. Should be mentioned that I live rather rural, and have experience (analysis and engi…

Have you gotten a job in the last year?

Re: Ask HN: How do you look for jobs in 2023?

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Post by oldtownroad »

teirce wrote: post #16
frfl wrote: post #8

Bit of a tangent, but what has been everyone's experience so far in 2023 trying to find a new job? I got really interested in this and have been passively researching it (HN, reddit posts). My conclusion, so far, is unless you've got strong connections it's hard right now to find a job. Most job posting, as OP mentions get hundreds if not thousands of applications. Other times, I've personally also notice, candidates…

Been looking since about February. I've probably sent out at least a hundred apps for positions I was interested in and met qualifications for. I think I've made it to a recruiter screen around ~10 times, and I've had less than 5 actual interviews follow. I have 6+ years in industry, 4 and some change of which were FAANG (which everyone believes is a golden ticket into any company). And I can't even get an interview.…

We hired a former Googler recently, great hire. Your resume couldn’t be more different from his: yours is so generic that my only takeaway is “oh he worked at Google”. I fear you’ve taken resume advice along the lines of “…explain the value of what you did…” (which is great advice) but should be used to augment technology experience, not replace it. I have no idea what you’re good at.

Find some former Google colleagues who have managed to get new jobs and ask to review their resumes. Google is noteworthy on a resume: it won’t guarantee you a job but it’ll mean someone reviews your resume. If you’re struggling so much with a 4 year Google stint under your belt, there’s something wrong with your resume.

Re: Ask HN: How do you look for jobs in 2023?

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Post by IshKebab »

gidorah wrote: post #77

I'm a UK accountant, so not IT. But I never apply direct. I always use recruiters. I think the benefits are: - recruiter usually only sends 2/3 resumes to employer, so better candidate-job match - recruiter has relationship with the client, so is more trusted - recruitment is a sales job, so they want a better match. - your first interview is with the recruiter, so less formal. If that goes well, they will make more…

Yeah I also had a good experience with recruiters. I've only got one job through them but it went pretty well. The two best things I found using a recruiter were:

1. They know about all the jobs. Despite searching quite hard I didn't know that some big companies had offices in my city. They are bad at advertising this.

2. They want you to get the job. That's how they get paid. So they are (mostly) on your side and will tell you things like details about what to expect in the interview. Surprisingly useful.

3. They bypass the normal nonsense application process. You just need a CV.

Would use again.

Re: Ask HN: How do you look for jobs in 2023?

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Post by Oras »

Do not be put off by the number of applicants of jobs on LinkedIn.

I hired two developers in the last few weeks via LinkedIn job ads and I can tell you out of 200 applicants there were less than 10 who fits the requirements.

I would also say make sure your resume fits the job, add your phone number and email address. Start with what's important, your experience and things that you're really good at.

Changing the resume to fit each JD would hard, but apply for jobs that your experience fit well.

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