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Sqlx: I'm sorry I forked you

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Re: Sqlx: I'm sorry I forked you

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Post by lovasoa »

neilv wrote: post #4

From the title, my guess was this was going to be an interesting case of someone publicly admitting a mistake, in some lesson we could all learn from. Instead, the title functions as a clickbaity hook, to promote the fork that the author is ostensibly apologizing for making. (I don't know whether the fork is good, bad, or neither. Just, probably I should've guessed what the most likely meaning of the title would be.)

Hey, I'm the author of the post. I did not post it to hacker news, but to the r/rust subreddit, where I think people had more context, and more reasons to be interested in it. Someone else posted the link to hacker news.

The title (which I indeed wanted to be a good catch phrase) was not meant to be an apology. English is not my mother tongue, so I may be misguided, but I meant "sorry" as "I am sorry about the state of affairs", not literally "I apologize to you, the sqlx library".

Re: Sqlx: I'm sorry I forked you

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Post by lifeisstillgood »

I think "I Regret the world has come to this" is a better translation.

But ultimately he is making a good point. IMO FOSS is the ultimate socialism - literally anyone who downloads Linux is a part owner of a trillion dollar construct - we all own it. We can fork it any time - and the reason we keep to one is purely a social decision to use that fork not that one.

And if we all own FOSS like we all own the seas or a forest we need to find means to look after it.

God Knows how. And she ain't telling.

Re: Sqlx: I'm sorry I forked you

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Post by znpy »

saurik wrote: post #3

This person does not actually seem to be sorry? (I am not--at least right now, with what little I know about the situation--saying this person should be sorry... but, I read this entire thing, and it doesn't really come off as a legitimate apology, which makes the language awkward; it feels more like an explanation about why they feel justified in their actions and how, at most, they are conflicted internally due to…

More like “sorry not sorry” than actually sorry

Re: Sqlx: I'm sorry I forked you

#14

Post by aukaost »

lovasoa wrote: post #11
neilv wrote: post #4

From the title, my guess was this was going to be an interesting case of someone publicly admitting a mistake, in some lesson we could all learn from. Instead, the title functions as a clickbaity hook, to promote the fork that the author is ostensibly apologizing for making. (I don't know whether the fork is good, bad, or neither. Just, probably I should've guessed what the most likely meaning of the title would be.)

Hey, I'm the author of the post. I did not post it to hacker news, but to the r/rust subreddit, where I think people had more context, and more reasons to be interested in it. Someone else posted the link to hacker news. The title (which I indeed wanted to be a good catch phrase) was not meant to be an apology. English is not my mother tongue, so I may be misguided, but I meant "sorry" as "I am sorry about the state…

Maybe "I'm sorry I had to fork you" would've been more in line with what you meant to say?

Re: Sqlx: I'm sorry I forked you

#15

Post by orbz »

aukaost wrote: post #14
lovasoa wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey, I'm the author of the post. I did not post it to hacker news, but to the r/rust subreddit, where I think people had more context, and more reasons to be interested in it. Someone else posted the link to hacker news. The title (which I indeed wanted to be a good catch phrase) was not meant to be an apology. English is not my mother tongue, so I may be misguided, but I meant "sorry" as "I am sorry about the state…

Maybe "I'm sorry I had to fork you" would've been more in line with what you meant to say?

Adding a ‘but’ in there is often times used to negate everything before the but, like “I’m sorry but I had to fork you” would imply you’re not sorry, you had to do this.

Re: Sqlx: I'm sorry I forked you

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Post by neilv »

lovasoa wrote: post #11
neilv wrote: post #4

From the title, my guess was this was going to be an interesting case of someone publicly admitting a mistake, in some lesson we could all learn from. Instead, the title functions as a clickbaity hook, to promote the fork that the author is ostensibly apologizing for making. (I don't know whether the fork is good, bad, or neither. Just, probably I should've guessed what the most likely meaning of the title would be.)

Hey, I'm the author of the post. I did not post it to hacker news, but to the r/rust subreddit, where I think people had more context, and more reasons to be interested in it. Someone else posted the link to hacker news. The title (which I indeed wanted to be a good catch phrase) was not meant to be an apology. English is not my mother tongue, so I may be misguided, but I meant "sorry" as "I am sorry about the state…

Thank you, I understand.

Re: Sqlx: I'm sorry I forked you

#17

Post by rowyourboat »

lovasoa wrote: post #11
neilv wrote: post #4

From the title, my guess was this was going to be an interesting case of someone publicly admitting a mistake, in some lesson we could all learn from. Instead, the title functions as a clickbaity hook, to promote the fork that the author is ostensibly apologizing for making. (I don't know whether the fork is good, bad, or neither. Just, probably I should've guessed what the most likely meaning of the title would be.)

Hey, I'm the author of the post. I did not post it to hacker news, but to the r/rust subreddit, where I think people had more context, and more reasons to be interested in it. Someone else posted the link to hacker news. The title (which I indeed wanted to be a good catch phrase) was not meant to be an apology. English is not my mother tongue, so I may be misguided, but I meant "sorry" as "I am sorry about the state…

I don't think the fact that it's sqlx or rust is really relevant. What you're describing is a problem and conflict of interest that's pervasive on open source, and that's what I thought worthy of discussing on hn.

I'm sorry that people seem to focus on your use of the word sorry, I read it to mean in the sense of "it's a shame that the world is how it is".

Re: Sqlx: I'm sorry I forked you

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Post by lovasoa »

rowyourboat wrote: post #17
lovasoa wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey, I'm the author of the post. I did not post it to hacker news, but to the r/rust subreddit, where I think people had more context, and more reasons to be interested in it. Someone else posted the link to hacker news. The title (which I indeed wanted to be a good catch phrase) was not meant to be an apology. English is not my mother tongue, so I may be misguided, but I meant "sorry" as "I am sorry about the state…

I don't think the fact that it's sqlx or rust is really relevant. What you're describing is a problem and conflict of interest that's pervasive on open source, and that's what I thought worthy of discussing on hn. I'm sorry that people seem to focus on your use of the word sorry, I read it to mean in the sense of "it's a shame that the world is how it is".

Yes that's what I meant.
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